U WANTED MADE IN U.S.A., or SHINN FU??

face it we are a consumer nation and even if it is made in the USA the machine that make the product is made in china so either way china is getting there cut…..or my favorite is assembled in the US……. They have the upper hand now all they have to do is refuse to supply us and he crumble

 

^ That's true. In the late 90's I saw a pipe factory getting equipped in Portland, OR and all the machinery was from china.

 

There are rants all over the internet about the lazy union amaerican worker but there is nothing futher from the truth. The amarican car industry suffered failure because the cars they built were not the cars people would buy. If you think the people working on the line at G/M or Ford determine the design, quality, or price of the cars they build you are making a mistake.

 

Just like the guys I talk to at Bell Customer service who say they are in Toronto, and his name is Tom. I doubt it.

 

Yeah, and half the stuff in a Harbor Freight store is made by a company called Pittsburgh.

 

A few weeks ago at my ex job--I had an older Asian couple almost ready to buy a new floor. They asked where it was made--I replied China. The woman looked at her husband and said--I don't want that cheap Chines shit--they walked out. Go Figure.

 

Yup... same here. I even hit the thrift stores from time to time and come up with things.

 

A-freakin'-men

 

Could be so, but the only call center I find myself calling lately was my phone company and they do connect me to their Boise ID location after that.

 

I wish the US would change the policies to be like Brazil. Domestic content it is called. At least 40% of anything built there must be purchased and made inside of the country.

 

How about:

The lazy American union worker assembles the poor quality parts designed/sourced by the American engineer/designer/bean counter.

There are plenty of lazy union workers and desk jockeys to go around.

 

But that would be called communism and swiftly defeated by our "betters"

 

There's part of the problem right there. Most people want something cheap, or gave to them. They'll complain that the made in America parts costs more, and not buy it, yet they'll go down and spend a couple hundred at the liquor store over the next few weekends, while building their vehicle with China junk for example. Or buying their kids some new video games to keep them glued to a TV.

Its all just sickening, companies, consumers, the stupidity I see everyday.

Suck it up people, buy American every chance you get, and pay more for it if you have to, its obvious companies aren't going to change, unless they feel it in their profits, and see that people take pride in American products. Boycott China junk. Skimp eating out a few days, and save the extra cash for that American part, over the China part.

Granted its hard to find everything made in USA, but every little bit helps, instead of just giving in, and letting this crap continue.

ELpolacko, I didnt mean any of this directed at you, your post just gave me an example of consumers.

This is all also a little more O/T than I wish to get on here, but I just kinda felt it needed saying.

 

My 50 year old, US made Sunbeam ToastMaster toaster and CoffeeMaster C30A coffeemaker still work perfectly. As does my 65 year old GE waffle iron. Meanwhile, I can't get an Asian made appliance to last more than a year. My Atlanta built Ford Taurus has 250,000 miles on the original unrebuilt drive train. Not too many jap cars gonna see that kinda mileage on their odometers.

 

We need to remember that China is a communist regime that opresses and abuses her people. We also need to remind our leaders of this as well.

 

I agree. with this method of Buy USA.

Not all of US work is manufacturing work is out sourced... just most of the tools and little crap we buy, break and throw away. I work for a large rebar manufacturing and fabrication company and we have thousands of US empoyees. Most if not all of our rebar is made in the USA.

I think where we went wrong was the quality and value of what is being produced now is just not there. It is very rare that you come across an item that can be repaired or that is worth repairing.

 

"We have met the enemy and it is us." - Pogo

The reason Japanese automakers got a foothold in this country is the same reason China is killing us. American people, for the most part, don't see much further than CHEAP! They don't give a rat's ass about the guy next door making a decent living so long as they get it cheap. The Japanese government heavily subsidized their auto industry to flood our shores. They, and China, put heavy tariffs on anything coming into their countries so as to protect themselves. Near as I can tell, we're the only stooges in the world that don't do this. Japan and China also realize that their best investments in the USA have been the politicians. Between that and the number of gullible Americans willing to believe their "Asian superiority" advertising, we are all screwed.

 

Eventually U.S. citizens will have to take a stand. or America will become a wasteland. If you don't support "Made in America" eventually we will have outsourced everything. When that happens all these third world and communist countries will cut us off and send us into Chaos in an image of a Road Warrior Movie Kill to Eat and Fight to Survive!

If we built everything here like we used to, Yes it would be expensive, Yes it would be built right. Best of all, Yes! our economy would come back! Blue collar workers would be proud of what they do and would no longer be in the lower class! We would be independent again! and not held down because we supply our own demand.

Some of our greatest allies (Japan) make excellent products! So why cant we? Its cause everything is outsourced! We can build the exact same thing but ours will have Shinn Fu parts cause we were to cheap to get the good stuff. I bet you Honda doesn't import parts for the Civic from China! Why are we for out Chevrolet?

 

Been in QA 32 years and have been through countelss ISO certification audits. For the most part ISO is a joke. The only time many companies meet the requirements are a week or so right before an audit which are on a regular schedule so there are no "surprise" audits and the auditors notify you in advance what they'll be auditing. It doesn't mean your stuff is any good it just means you have your processes documented and follow your documentation, when somebody's looking...... When they're not looking and the audit is over...........

 

No comment!

 

You're right, TS is even worse!

 

I have just built a Chevy 350 racing engine all the parts came from well known American companies, but most of them were made in China or Mexico.

The problem is big business wants a fast buck today rather than invest in tomorrow. Here in the U.K. it is even worse manufacturing has been going down the tubes since the early sixties

 

But, that was a comment.

 

they dont care, they are learning how to do the same to us

 

I really wish you were right, I REALLY do but you need to start looking at odometers on Jap cars, especially Hondas, you're in for a rude awakening. No, I don't own any foreign cars and won't but you're kidding yourself if you really think Japanese cars can't do that and more. A 300,000 mile Honda is not uncommon at all. A 300,000 mile Taurus? Not too common.

 

I heard an interesting comment the other day. A large corporation had several job openings for Engineers that they filled with foreign applicants, When the CEO was asked why they didn't fill the jobs with American applicants, his response was "The foreign applicants are smarter." Not too far from the truth if you take a look at the education system in this country. If you want to fix America, fix the education system.

 

THANKS everyone for the input, and not making this Political and getting shut down. So, lets take it to the next level. We have MANY brilliant minds here, so someone in manufacturing, cost analysis etc, take your engine stand, and your calculator and tell us all HONESTLY, how much would the materials be at U.S prices to build the 1000 engine stands. I want the engine stand to be all U.S. hardware too. Welding, powdercoating, assembly, and packaging, all U.S.A., even the cardboard for the box. There is no R&D or Engineering required for this project, so that's totaly out of the equation as far as cost. Yes, I know I am forgetting labor, overhead, warehouse, and utility's, bla, bla, bla, this will be a grass roots, Mom and Pop { Traditions/P-N-B }AMERICAN small business. Just how much in materials to make 1000 of the best darn last several lifetimes engine stand. I'm afraid of the answer quite frankly. TR

 

Unfortunately, you are correct. They don't need us anymore, we are now a problem.

 

Just not Americans (at least not in this area) - non english speaking for the most part.

well said!

Amen

 

He lied. Foreign engineers are cheaper not smarter. I deal with them (engineers) every day.
Many foreigners come to North America for their engineering education.