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Features 1937 to 1942 Willys Picture Thread

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  1. cgaswillys
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    cgaswillys
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    from New Jersey

    Some More
     

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  2. cgaswillys
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    cgaswillys
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    last ones for now
     

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  3. chopdtop
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    Very interesting Craigslist find tonight(not mine, but I wish that I had the money for it!)

    Extremely rare, original condition, 1942 Willys Americar / Gasser-style Panel Delivery. From the research performed, this vehicle was the very last of the line of non-military commercial vehicles made and delivered by Willys, prior to the USA entering WWII. This vehicle is quite unusual with lots of original wood framing (mostly in excellent condition) throughout the interior of the body. Through national and international research, no others have been located and therefore is believed to be the only remaining vehicle of its kind. It was exported from the USA to Buenos Aires, Argentina, in 1942, right when all available resources were diverted into the war effort. As was described by an Argentinian contact, the vehicle had been used for making deliveries as part of a family business in and around the city of Buenos Aires. Various Argintinian receipts and registration documents that date back to the 1970's will be included with the vehicle. Further vehicle-use history research should be possible for the new owner of the vehicle. The vehicle was brought back into the USA in the mid 2000's.

    The vehicle hasn't been started or driven for approximately two years, however it ran, drove and stopped amazingly well for an original vehicle of this vintage.
     

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  4. bob myers
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    just took this one of my car today
     

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  5. Weasel
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    This one has been subject of much speculation ever since it popped up in VA a few years ago, and the general consensus of opinion from long time Willys guys - collectors and restorers is that it is a Willys front clip on something else - maybe an International. Willys had a stepvan at that time so there would be no need to tool up for a one off. The story out of Argentina sounds extremely fishy and has, as far as I am aware, nothing in the way of credible documentation or proof of provenance - in legal speak it is called hearsay. Others may disagree....
     
  6. Hot Rod Willys
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    There has to be a Willys guy in the Denver area who can check this panel out and see if its a Willys or not. It should be very easy as the Willys frames, dash etc, is very unique.
     
  7. gassercrazy41
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    cool pics.thanks for sharing
     
  8. Weasel
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    Here are a couple of photos culled from the interwebnet thingy of a stock 1938 pickemup - a thing of beauty indeed....[​IMG]

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  9. nolly
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    Heres my pals,Graham,All steel 40 Willys pu!! Its an ex-racer he built in the single garage in the pic!!
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  10. yoyodyne
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    survivor
     

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  11. chevy59409
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    one of my future projects
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  12. gassercrazy41
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    here's a couple
     

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  13. Stuwillys
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    Here you go.
     

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  14. gassa-garage
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    New England Dragway Pics
     

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  15. Those were the Days! :)

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  16. I still have the Hot Rod magazine around here somewhere that this ad appears in!!!!
     
  17. BADGAS
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    G'Day All.
    I like to say a huge THANKS to everyone that made my USA Walkabout to the Gasser Reunion Thompson Ohio. Gasser Reunion Beaver Springs Pennsylvannia and Hotrod Reunion Bowling Green Kentucky a awesome holiday.

    Everyone i met made me feel so welcome and the memorys will stay with me forever.

    I especially would like to thank Don Moyer "Rebel Reaper" 1940 Willys for showing me around and allowing me to sleep in his original 1950's Dinner for about a week and then taking me to the Gasser Reunion Beaver Springs.

    I also would like to thank Dave Cobb "Finders Keepers" A/GS 33 Willys for letting me stay at his house and for letting me help him work on his Willys and then taking me to the Hotrod Reunion in Bowling Green.

    I also like to thank Browder Ledbetter for the ride from Bowling Green to Nashville so i could catch my flights home.

    I also like to thank Guido for taking the time out to show me around LA even though he was busy organising his own trip away after my flight was delayed 48 hours because of the ash from the Chile volcano stopped all flights to Australia.

    My spur of the moment walkabout was planned in only 7 days before i left here and the only accomadation i had arranged was my first night in a motel Cleveland Ohio.

    From the time i left my home here till i got to the Cleveland Airport was 49 1/2 hours travelling.

    My return trip from Nashville Tennessee till i got home here in Aussie took 81 looong hours as my flight was deverted via New Zealand.

    THANK YOU ALL again for looking after me as i had so much fun that i will have to try and do it again someday.

    Cheers
    Sammy
    Waydownunder.
     
  18. Bucksnort
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  19. xracer40
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    Interesting story from oldcarsweekly.com

    Having a gas in a BONE-STOCK WILLYS
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    I n a sea of shiny pro-street and gasser-style Willyses painted bright reds and yellows, Al Lindgren’s unrestored, ghostly Bedford Gray 1941 Willys Americar coupe, with all of its chips and dings and its skinny bias-ply tires, is the star of the show.

    And unlike those other Willys owners, Lindgren didn’t have to re-engineer his Willys’ suspension, cut its body to fit bigger meats or build an early Hemi engine for the coupe to attract a crowd. He barely had to track down any parts, let alone paint the coupe. In fact, the less he does to it, the more it stands out.

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    After more than 65 years, this Willys retains nearly all of its original paint. Equally surprisingly, it’s never even seen a drag racer’s torch. Its current owner, Al Lindgren, owns a second Willys coupe that was a gasser in the 1960s. That car is being revived to gasser configuration, but the coupe pictured here will remain stock as long as it’s in Lindgren’s hands. Lindgren tracked this car’s history back to the original owner, a Willys [COLOR=#0000ff! important][COLOR=#0000ff! important]dealer[/COLOR][/COLOR] who sold only two cars, including this one. (Nathan Van Bogart photo)

    To find out how Lindgren’s Willys coupe remained one of the finest original ’41 Willys coupes, one need only to trace its tracks from the start. Luckily, Lindgren has just done that.

    In the early 1940s, Chris Nelson from Canton, S.D., received a license to distribute Willys vehicles. According to Lindgren’s research, the penny-wise Nelson wanted the license only to get a better deal on a new car. Willys required its licensees to purchase at least two vehicles, so Nelson bought two coupes, the most affordable body style from America’s least-expensive full-size marque.

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    It’s hard to believe, but the 1937 and 1938 Willyses, which shared basic body shells with this 1941 Americar, were voted as the worst-looking cars those years in an annual poll taken at the New York [COLOR=#0000ff! important][COLOR=#0000ff! important]Auto[/COLOR][/COLOR] Show by the Market Research Corp. There’s no question that the Willys’ design has proven timeless, and that revised front sheet metal in 1940 only made what many now consider to be a good thing even better. This particular ‘41 Willys is so original, it still retains its optional exhaust tailpipe extension.

    As required, two Willyses arrived at Nelson’s South Dakota business from Willys’ Toledo assembly line: a blue coupe and the gray coupe pictured here. Nelson kept the blue coupe for himself, and it was eventually destroyed in a garage fire during the 1950s. The gray coupe was sold to Nelson’s brother Herman, who kept the miles low. From 1941-’59, Herman only put 21,000 miles on the Willys, and from 1959-’67, he added only 800 more miles to the odometer. All the while, Herman kept the car serviced and in a heated garage.

    By the late 1960s, Herman probably endured countless offers from drag racers to buy his Willys coupe, but he resisted every one of them. Since the 1950s, the type of people who would give a Willys a second look were drag racers with thoughts of Hemi engines and [COLOR=#0000ff! important][COLOR=#0000ff! important]Oldsmobile[/COLOR][/COLOR] rear ends dancing in their heads. Thanks to the Willys’ featherweight status and short wheelbase length, which actually aided traction at drag strip Christmas trees, Willyses were the perfect drag cars, never mind the fact that they looked good doing it.

    It took more than a stock engine to move the Willys, however. The 63-hp four-cylinder installed by the factory into every 1941 Willys was good for puttering along back roads at a decent clip, but as the number of freeways (and their speed limits) increased, driving an old and stock Willys may have seemed like a liability more than a leisure activity. From this line of thinking, many drag racers probably felt they were doing a favor by modifying Willyses.

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    It’s a cavernous trunk, but is it large enough to sleep in? The second owner’s family thought so and camped out here on occasion. Under the original tools and reproduction trunk mat, the car’s current owner found previous owners’ names scratched into the paint. The names are still there.

    When Herman Nelson finally did sell his Willys in 1967, it wasn’t to a drag racer or street rodder — it was to Sonny Hagseth, his great nephew. Herman cut Sonny a sweet deal on the 21,700-mile Willys and handed over the car and title for only $200.

    The car’s age and low sale price didn’t prevent Sonny from trusting its dependability. He used the car on several trips, and he and his family often slept in the car’s cavernous trunk on overnight trips. Lindgren learned from Sonny that the car would happily cruise at 60 mph.

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    The round-cornered razor grille and teardrop-shaped headlamps of the 1941 Willys perfectly harmonize with the car’s bow-edged hood. Note the Americar name on the leading edge of the hood.

    By this time, the use of Willyses as good drag machines was well-known, and Sonny must have been tempted to check out the drag [COLOR=#0000ff! important][COLOR=#0000ff! important]racing[/COLOR][/COLOR] experience for himself. In 1968, he took the still-stock car to the Thunder Valley Drag Strip and entered it in U/Stock where he was pitted against a VW Beetle. While the Willys made an impressive show of spinning one of its rear tires, it lost the race to the Beetle. Luckily, that was the end of this Willys’ gasser experience.

    In 1972, Sonny decided to start a construction business, so he placed a “for sale” sign in the Willys’ window. While in Sioux Falls, the car caught the attention of Joe Castle, a service station owner. Castle bought the car for $1,500 and scratched his name in the trunk before selling it four years later. Thanks to his mark, Lindgren was able to trace each of the car’s owners and nearly all of its blemishes, right down to a ding on the front fender.

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    Note how the seal between the door vent glass and side glass is incorporated into the side window for a clean and sporty look with the windows down.

    Word of Castle’s ownership of the Willys spread as far as California, and around 1976, he received a call from Ted Shafer, a jazz musician in San Francisco’s Ted Shafer’s Jelly Roll Jazz Band, asking if Castle would sell the car. Shafer already owned a 1941 Willys sedan and wanted to add a coupe to his collection, but was having a difficult time finding a stock Willys coupe in California. After Castle agreed to put [COLOR=#0000ff! important][COLOR=#0000ff! important]new [COLOR=#0000ff! important]tires[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] on the car and fix a dent in the trunk lid (the car’s only known paint work), a deal was struck, and Shafer flew up to South Dakota with the intent to drive the Willys back. He got as far as the border between Utah and Nevada when the engine seized. Apparently, Shafer forgot to check the oil, so after the car was flat-bedded to San Francisco, its engine was rebuilt when the odometer read 36,000 miles.

    Shafer sold the car in the latter part of the 1970s, though he can’t recall why, and it passed through several other California owners’ hands. One of those owners worked at an aquatic park where the car would attract more than its share of looks in the parking lot. By the 1980s, the Willys was anything but camera shy, after having had so many lenses pointed at it.

    Californian Willys owner Dexter Bennett first spotted the unrestored ’41 coupe in 1987 from one of the many photographs snapped of the car. Bennett ran across the photograph a second time in 1989 and felt inspired to track it down through its license plate. Police were able to give him a name and address for the owner, so Bennett took this information to a title company to track down the phone number. After making several phone calls and sending many letters to the owner, Bennett bought the car without ever having seen it in person.

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    The dimensions of the Willys’ frame and its body shell were largely unchanged from 1937 to 1942, and because the Willys’ wheelbase was stretched from 100 inches in 1937 and ‘38 to 102 inches in 1939 and 104 inches in 1941 and ‘42, the rear [COLOR=#0000ff! important][COLOR=#0000ff! important]wheels[/COLOR][/COLOR] are not centered in the wheel opening on later cars. Although the car’s third set of whitewalls have yellowed with time, its owner has been encouraged to leave them on the car to add to its patina.


    “In the spring of 1991, Dexter [Bennett] and two friends set out on the five-hour drive one-way to pick up the car,” Lindgren said. “As that garage door opened, I can only imagine what was going through Dexter’s mind at the time. There sat an original, stock, all-steel, uncut [Willys].”

    In the nine years Bennett owned the Willys, he replated the bumpers, polished the stainless trim and went through the car’s mechanic bits with the goal of preservation.

    “He even went as far as reproducing dash knobs, the trunk mat and rubber bushings and grommets exactly as original,” Lindgren said.

    Rumors began to circulate in the late 1990s of Bennett’s interest in selling the Willys. Since Lindgren was already resurrecting a period gasser and was driving a stock 1942 sedan, he was tightly tied into the Willys clubs and acted on the rumors by contacting Bennett.

    “[Sellers] don’t advertise their Willys for sale much,” Lindgren said. “They’re sold under the wraps. It’s difficult to buy a stock one, and if you mention ‘hot rod’ to the seller, you’re probably not going to get one.”

    But already owning a stock Willys wasn’t enough to sway Bennett into signing the title over to Lindgren, at least right away.

    “[The owner] was more eccentric than most of them, but he knew I had an interest in originality,” Lindgren said. “I had to actually prove myself and that I was not going to hot rod the [car].”

    It took a while for Lindgren and Bennett to get to know each other, but it was time well spent. After several phone calls over an extended period of time, Bennett agreed to sell the Willys to Lindgren.

    With the sale price agreed upon, it was only a matter of shipping the Willys from Bennett’s California home to Lindgren’s Minnesota garage. But there was one hitch — Lindgren hadn’t seen the car in person, and Bennett was reluctant to ship it before Lindgren could lay eyes on it.

    “I think he thought I thought I was going to get it and think it was going to be a pristine show car,” Lindgren said. But the Minnesotan knew it was a 60-year-old survivor and was confident the South Dakota and California climates had preserved it well. He was not disappointed, although he grew nervous when the car arrived at his home.

    “When the truck pulled up, I started getting a little freaked out, because it was a lot of money for a car I hadn’t seen personally,” Lindgren admitted. However, several friends Lindgren trusted had seen the car and had walked away impressed. Lindgren had also seen the car in a video.

    When the enclosed carrier opened up, Lindgren’s nerves got to him. Was the video as thorough as he’d hoped? Were his friends’ definitions of a “nice” car the same as his? He was about to find out.

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    The upholstery and much of the interior remains as original as the outside. By the owner’s count, the car is on its third set of seat covers over the original seat material. The door pull straps were a $1.75 option.

    “When it showed up, it was in the middle of the [COLOR=#0000ff! important][COLOR=#0000ff! important]truck[/COLOR][/COLOR] with a plastic car cover on it, and I started getting weak in the knees,” he said. “But as soon as I could see [how nice] the rear fender down by the door was, I was so happy. It was everything I thought it would be as a survivor.”

    There were some problems, however. The car’s brake pedal went down to the floor, and there were no keys to go with the car or gas in the tank. It seems Bennett hadn’t trusted sending the car with its keys and title, but he perfectly timed the shipping of all the items. The keys arrived in the mail just behind the semi loaded with the Willys.

    “That night, I looked out the garage door [to see the car] about 50 times all night,” Lindgren said.

    Once the car was nestled in its new home, Lindgren began to make it a little bit better than it arrived, but he, too, worked on it with preservation rather than restoration in mind.

    “It’s had some stuff redone, but even a 65-year-old man has had a little dental work done, too,” he said. In the years he’s owned the Willys coupe, Lindgren has merely washed and tinkered with it...and driven it!

    “I went through the brakes and put a correct radio in it, but I did not put an antenna on it because you have to put holes [in the body]. The hood never fit right, which you can see in old photos, so I had to do a little tweaking to get it to fit like it should,” he said.

    Lindgren has liked Willyses since he saw a picture of Ohio George Montgomery’s ’33 Willys coupe model kit as a kid. He even thought to himself, “Some day I’ll own one.” Yet he freely admits that Willyses were economy cars built with frugality in mind.

    “These were Kleenex cars — use ’em up and throw ’em away,” he said. “They were a cheap car built in a depressed time in Toledo. A lot of people think that hot rodding used up all these cars, and [while] a great majority were rodded, I think hot rodding saved a lot of them. Otherwise, they would have been crushed.”

    But hot rodding is something that will never happen to this car as long as it’s parked in Lindgren’s garage.

    “You’ve got to keep the [Willys] survivors the way they are,” Lindgren said. “A lot of people would have taken it to a hot rodder and not given it a second thought as to what the history of the car is or where it came from.”

    Because he’s connected with Willys collectors, Lindgren estimates there are approximately 15 unrestored and driving 1940-’42 Willys coupes known to Willys zealots. There are probably only a handful more restored Willys coupes, so leaving a car like this untouched helps explain the rarely explored history of the marque.

    “The rocker panels on [COLOR=#0000ff! important][COLOR=#0000ff! important]my [COLOR=#0000ff! important]car[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] are completely different from other 1941 Willys rocker panels,” he said. “It’s a very late serial-numbered car, so it could have been one of the last ’41s. The 1941s came standard with rocker panels, and running boards were optional. In ’42, running boards were standard, and rocker panels were optional. Coming out of the Depression and going into war times, who knows how these ended up on this car?”

    For Lindgren, part of the joy of owning the unrestored Willys comes from the reaction of crowds who see the 54,000-mile coupe when he shows it.

    “Every kid looks at it, and everyone [else] who looks at it says, ‘I’d like to get a Willys,’ ” Lindgren said. “For some reason, these things grab a hold of you.”

    And it’s clear this one isn’t letting go of Lindgren’s affection anytime soon.

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  20. Hot Rod Willys
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    Al has since sold this coupe to a collector in California. I bought his stock sedan years ago and he is still building his gasser coupe. Great story and a fantastic original coupe!
     
  21. ags41dave
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    Dave;Do you or anyone else for that matter,know the were abouts of the Fred Hurst Willys coupe with the molded tn rear fenders?Dave
     
  22. langy
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  23. Weasel
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    The stock Willys coupe above was at one time owned by Dexter Bennett in California, went to Minnesota and is now back in California which is where I took Sammy Cooper (Badgas) to see it last week when he was delayed on his flight home. Glad to hear you made it back okay Sammy.
     
  24. Hot Rod Willys
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    The old Fred Hurst Willys is a street rod in Cincinnati Ohio right now. I cant remember the owners name but I could find out if I asked a few guys.
     
  25. Hot Rod Willys
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    Anybody in Phoenix Arizona ever seen this one? It was at a place called Gregs autobody.
     

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  26. Hot Rod Willys
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    Found this here in the HAMB.
     

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  27. ShakeyPuddin55
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    Pretty sure that's Dennis Taylor.
    Badass car... even tho it's glass. :D
     
  28. Back in the 80's there used to be a yellow coupe running around the Toronto area with the rear fenders molded in. Rumour had it that the car fell off a hoist at the family gas station and killed the son (who owned the car).

    Never saw it again.
     
  29. yoyodyne
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  30. ME.GASSER
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    Beautiful picture of our good friends Paul and Pam Balash's car "sequel"
     

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