Projects '62 Ford Unibody LSR Truck

Tim, Your system looks fine to me!

Rule 3.Q states: "Extinguishing agent cylinders within the driver's compartment shall be mounted with a system more substantial than hose clamps alone. The use of hose clamps as a primary mounting system is prohibited."

You cylinder has the manufacturer's mounts, so I bet it's fine!

 

Rich, I know you've been at this longer than I, I'm very much a "rookie", so any suggestion from you I would be happy to take into consideration.

 

Buddy's right on the nozzles and lines. tie wraps are used on lots of cars. They don't want the bottle to brake loose and go bouncing around in the car if you crash. They do like something supporting the nozzle besides the tube. But you have done this enough to know whats what. Nice truck but I have a sweet spot for Yellow.

 

I stand corrected then. Thanks for the clear up. Truck looks good. A few weeks to go!

 

i am plumbing our system this week, and i read that i needed them on both sides of the seat pointing down and one on either side of eng pointing at header area and one behind eng center area? we have a 10lb and a 5 lb in it. . love the truck lookin forward to seein it at bonne........

 

Sam, that's not the way I read it. I believe the engine compartment stays the same, with 2 nozzles pointed to the header/oil pan area. Of course, the 3rd nozzle in the engine compartment would be good, if you have two pointed at the driver

The additional (4th nozzle) is for the driver:

3Q: All vehicles over 200 mph:, bercause of the additional time required to stop, shall be equipped with additional extinguishing agent ( in addition to the 5lbs minimum) which is designed and fitted for driver protection. The installation should be commensurate with driver compartment size and the speed of the vehicle. Contact a reputable safety equipment manufacturer for installion advice.

So, you need a minimum of 11lbs fire agent. Since you are in Mustang, you could get a letter from Stroud about the installation of the second driver nozzle, and put the letter in your build book.

Of course, that's just how I read it!

 

Also, remember that the two nozzles requirement is because the rule book writer has a V8 fixation. On inline 4 cylinder and six cylinder engines I have seen and been through tech with one only nozzle. On a GMC or similar large six cylinder two couldn't hurt. Or on a Buick or other very long engine I would think two is the requirement. But if your in V4F so far I get away with one.

 

I went with two 10lb bottles just because it's better to have more than enough than too little.

OK! now for todays action. This truck with a "Funny Car" style cage has been seen as a bit tough to get in and out of, I kept trying it out as we built it so I didn't make it so as to not be able to drive it. Until today I have not tryed to enter and exit with full suit and "head & neck" restraint. So for your veiwing pleasure I submit this.

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I had planned on all three from the ten lb in driver compartment and three from the 5 lb on the engine? ideas...

 

Thats a SMALL hole to crawl through Tim! With soem practice and adreneline you can shave off some time on that 25 seconds! I equate bailout to a gas drill in the Army. CS was bad enough, I always imagined it was nerve gas....................damn did I get fast!@

 

That was my second try. I'm glad I dont have the Hans device, I tried one down at Elmo and it kept getting hung up on the cage. This Safety Solutions device is SFI certified, stays with the vehicle and is not too uncomfortable. I'm getting used to it, although I still don't see a need for it in land speed racing.

 

Wow, I always thought it would be cool to race, but Id probably be too claustrophobic to get in there. Looking forward to watching you race though!

 

Looks like you need a helper !! lol

 

I do! there is no way I can get everything buckled up by myself.

 

I think I have all the "legal" stuff done today. Now in the days to come I will do a few things that may make it a little faster.

Driveshaft hoop in.



Safety cable on hood.



Tow hook.



Push bar.

 

I watched the bailout,, remember it is not a 'timed' event. The rules say 'in a reasonable amount of time". Still a small hole to come out of. I would like to see it again with door closed, eyes closed, full restraint, and full shutdown and getting out with the helmet still on.

I may have missed it, but what is your wheel and tire combo?

 

Doesn't Halon deprive fire of oxygen? And if it is pointed towards the visor .... well doesn't that deprive the driver of oxygen? Again, I might be wrong.

 

I know it's not a timed event, but it's nice to know for myself. I believe that it takes less time to get out with out the helmet than the time saved by not removing it. Either way I may try it full shut down with the helmet on, but it does make my noggin quite ungamely.

Wheels are custom from "Early Wheel Co." in Morro Bay, tires are Goodyear Front Runners. 26" in front 29" in rear.

 

Tim, you rock. see you soon!

 

One problem I do have is this fuel tank I keep tripping over, I wish someone would take it off my hands.

 

Done~!

 

Tim, your paint job is awesome! It has totally got me thinking about just "getting over it" and painting my truck. Would be so nice to have a nice looking truck like that with glossy paint and all new weather stripping.

 

Tim, I sent you a PM. The build looks great!

Sam, contact Roy Creel (Fuel/Fire Extinguishing System Specialist), or Russ Eyres (Vintage Roadster Chair)

 

Even a fire will deprive you of oxygen. The short time you are deprived because of the extinguisher, be it CO2 or Halon, is not avoidable nor a danger to the driver. I may misremember, but it seems to me the bailout is a timed event and we were shooting for 20 seconds when I did the drill.

 

The bail out was only my second try in full dress, so I think the time will be shorter with a little more practice. When I performed it in the "Brick" it seems they just wanted to see that I could get out, they may have been timing me but I didn't know it.

 

Not that I know any of the rules but I do watch what's going on a lot of the times. I would be curious to know if SCTA is going to allow removing of the helmet before exiting the vehicle. My guess is no, as I have never seen anyone ever do that before.

Also, you could run into an issue if you had a fire that was not put out by the fire system, and was reaching into the cab area, would you want to remove an item that could prevent possible burns? Just an outloud thought.

Great looking truck and great job on building this. Hope you have a great time at on the salt!

 

Very good point Mike, you may see a new "Bail out" video soon with the helmet on.

 

Talking to an Inspector, you have to come out with the helmet on, for the reasons mentioned, time and fire. Right now there are racers everywhere practicing bailouts because of the new restraint requirements. It needs to be a natural process, as it is your life. You will get there.

 

Worked on bail out again tonight, video is loading as we speak.

 

Are you allowed to bail out on the passanger side instead of the drivers side?