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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by yonahrr, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. OahuEli
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    Ditto! :D
     
  2. Jack Innes
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    I maybe can help Jerry out but I really don't know the need for pictures.

    Here is one of an exotic $1.50
     

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  3. Just one more reason your wife appreciates the speedster :D
     
  4. Ben DeBumper
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    If you guys can't figure out how to find bikini pics on the internet, turn in your surfing license! :D
     
  5. Ben DeBumper, eh? :rolleyes: Did you used to work at Rex Karr's Body Shop??? ;)
     
  6. some one find a message in a bottle ?
    will there be a seashell/coconut Gieger counter mounted on the speedster..?
    will the cars color change to sand and sky blue
     
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  7. patman
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    He's too busy looking at the shipboard sights:

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Geez, that almost looks like Jerry- LOL!!!
     
  9. plym49
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    Gerry, since you are on a cruise, the burning-est cruise question:

    Mary Anne or Ginger?
     
  10. lovey has extra cash..........
     
  11. yonahrr
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    Just got back after driving 11 hours from Cape Canaveral. My DSL was down when I got home. Had to call the help desk who wasted my time. Then the thing came back by itself. We got off the boat late because they have more customs agents checking disembarking cruise ship passengers for extra liters of booze than they have looking for illegal aliens on the Arizona border. And speaking of bikini bodies, if you melted down all the fat I saw by the pool you could power the ship to Costa Maya and back. :) Next cruise is with me and the wife alone. 24 hours a day with 2 kids is tough. My booze bill was awesome. A few notes. Belize City is a nasty place, but 45 minutes away they have some awesome cave tubing--really cool! Costa Maya has nothing but shopping and a beach--but a nice beach. Roatan is an island 37 miles by 8 miles, small, but what a jewel! I could have spent the whole week there. I had lots of thoughts about the speedster and some interesting ideas about fenders. Monday, I'm starting on the body. I'm a week behind! I vowed when I started the Seagrave would be a 2 year project. 2 years is up in November! Can I make it? Thanks to you guys for keeping the thread going in my absence.

    Jerry
     
  12. Show us your tan line ... No don't
     
  13. yonahrr
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    More Paint

    Before leaving I stripped then painted the backing plates with epoxy paint. Today I reassembled the brakes. I figured I ought to paint the gas tank because some curious fellow will stick his head under the car and shout: "OMG, it's got a Mustang fuel tank!" I laid it so thick it almost looks like undercoating. Is that bad? I also painted a few misc. pieces. I want everything done so I can assemble the chassis real quick like.

    Jerry
     

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  14. 64 DODGE 440
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    Looks properly vintage...either that or stucco.:p
     
  15. yonahrr
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    Transmission

    Well, I'm trying to get to the bodywork but I've got to get the chassis assembled. There are still a few metal work details on the body I've got to finish and to do them I've got to rest the body on the chassis. So today I worked on the transmission. I trimmed down the new front seal and made a gasket and a shim for it. Then I started on the grimiest job of the whole project--cleaning the transmission. The beast weighs about 200 pounds. It's filthy inside and out. If I broke out the engine hoist and loaded it up in a pickup, took it to my other building that has water (my little shop is dry), drove 4 miles to get my steam cleaner and worked on it for an hour to get it running, I could have the transmission cleaned up in a flash. But that's too much work so I'll just scrape and wash until it's clean enough to paint. Look at the 70 year old goop that came out of it! Nice! Reminds me of the night after our dinner in Belize.

    Jerry
     

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  16. Dapostman
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    Jerry,

    I'm still waiting for the fender ideas you mentioned.

    Don
     
  17. yonahrr
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    Fenders--oh yeah. This is going to be hard to explain. So imagine a strip of sheet metal 12" wide by 10' long. Now bend it in the shape of a fender. It's flat so it looks like something off a 1909 Buick. Alright, now tilt or flare it a few degrees to one side. Now it looks like something off a racey 1909 Mercedes. Now make up another fender just like it but flared the opposite direction. Now bring them together. trim the edges straight and weld them together. Then trim the outside edge straight. I envision a peaked curved fender. Will metal do this? If so what will it look like? I need to make some test pieces. I'm thinking about a peaked center section with which to join the sides to. Whadya think?

    Jerry
     
  18. yonahrr
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    More cleaning.

    I scrubbed and cleaned and washed the transmission. Tomorrow I paint it and put the new seal in. All this cleaning has brought a concept to mind I developed a while back. Maybe it was in the sixties when I was having weird thoughts. Call it Jerry's Law: Everything is made of dirt. A corollary of Jerry's Law is: Dirt can be neither created or destroyed, but can only be moved from place to place. Anyone else got any weird laws?

    Jerry
     
  19. 64 DODGE 440
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    You say that like dirt is a bad thing. :p
     
  20. Jack Innes
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    I envision a peaked curved fender. Will metal do this? If so what will it look like? I need to make some test pieces. I'm thinking about a peaked center section with which to join the sides to. Whadya think?

    Jerry[/QUOTE]
    Jerry,

    Sure it will!
     

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  21. Ned Ludd
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    Best way is probably to make a scale model in paper or thin card. You'll find the curved portions aren't simple strips but more like flat arcs. That'll help you figure out how to cut the various shapes out of sheetmetal without wasting too much.

    I read about "Gothic arch"-section fenders once, but the mind is a blank as to where. I seem to recall the context being British - perhaps Lagonda. The idea was picked up by Ford in '37, albeit less dramatically. You're looking more at pitched-roof-section fenders: the two halves are simple curves. That is also vaguely familiar, as if I've seen something like that but didn't quite register; perhaps French, early '20s.

    This approach will lead you into leaf-like shapes at the leading and trailing ends of the fenders. Done with a tiny bit of Art Nouveau flair that can be extremely cool.
     
  22. I don't know whose it is, but there is a law closely related to Jerry's Law which states: Ninety percent of everything is crap.

    Though one of my favorites is Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage. ;)
     
  23. Dapostman
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    Jerry,

    I find clean cooking oil to take off the oldest of oils, greases, and tars; cleans up good with common soap afterwords; much easier on the skin than gasoline too.

    Those fenders sound cool. Paint em the same color as the chassis to complement the cream. Do you plan on running with a board or cycle like?

    Here are some done in wood, but the same idea. 39_Lagonda_Rapide_DV_06-HHA_036.jpg

    39-Lagonda_V12_Tulipwood_DV-07-RMM-01.jpg And one in metal. gn fender.JPG

    I agree, mock them out in construction paper first, even small scale, till the shape becomes clear; probably look like two crescents or so.
     
  24. Giovanni
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    I think that's the perfect compromise in flat/curved fenders. I vote yes.
     
  25. ^FNG^gone in 5,4,3,2....:rolleyes:
     
  26. Have you looked into copper rain gutters for fenders curved r-l and with ends
     
  27. 64 DODGE 440
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    Those fenders on the GN are perfect.
     
  28. Jack Innes
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    At the risk of falling into the same trap as the fellows who got me when talking about their Henway & the Dicfer, what's a GN?
     
  29. Jack,

    Wikipedia says that," The GN was a British cyclecar made in Hendon, North London, between 1910 and 1920..."

    Neat little cars!
     
  30. Dapostman
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    GNs were used for specials after WWI and when the company was dissolved many of the ideas were reborn in Frazer-Nash. You can see a GN special in the aircraft engined car thread.
     

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