I recently bought a 1922 model t coupe it has no numbers or title all I have is a bill of sale does anyone know how hard this is going to be in Tennessee to get this registered and titled ?
In most states you can get it inspected and have a VIN assigned at DMV, then go for title. Talk to your local DMV office.
Just a bill of sale ain't gonna cut it. Tennessee has really cracked down in the last few years. Here's a link to the state website - good luck. TN vehicle titling.
I have a friend who is a cop where I live who said it should be no problem they will have to inspect it then have a new title and vin plate made . From what I have found out from research on the car they didn't issue titles with them or put numbers on the frame until late 1925 I may be wrong on that .
I'm hoping someone on here has had this experience before who can give me some advice on the situation
I saw that and went to the site . Still wanting to know what all someone has to go through fir this type of situation
I saw all the info on the website I'm asking if Anyones ever dealt with the state not having a title or VIN #
I went yesterday to the az dmv and they told me for my 1947 chevy cab over that the bill of sale is useless because the vehicle does not have the number printed on the bill of sale anywhere on it. He said those numbers could have been made up. I was instructed to bring the truck down the the dmv so they can inspect it for title only since it does not currently run. They will check the engine or transmission for numbers. I told him that the engine and trans are from a different year, 195 4i believe. So he said i will need to still bring it in for inspection and file a bonded title. This may be the only time the bill of sale MAY come into play to show the amount i paid for it in order to assign a dollar amount for the bond. But if they cant use the numbers to title it how can they use the amount i paid for it in order to bond it? I think i outsmarted the dmv maybe. Sorry i was rambling out loud to myself for the sake of documentation so i can go back and remember my idea. Back to your situation. It sounds like you and i are more likely in the same situation where you are going to be issued a state id tag that your newly accuired vehicle will be registered by. Leasoned learned...... never, never, NEVER buy another vehicle without a title unless you dont mind jumping through hoops.
Does it have an engine? The engine number is the VIN on a "T". It may be worth while, if there is no engine, to find a junk "T" engine and bolt it in. At least you'll have some numbers to get the process going
Nubby, first the club name now this. Buddy, settle down and get a feel for the room. Do some searching, spend a little time checking for answers already out there and try to avoid the FNG stuff.
Instead of spinning off about 8 different ways, you could go directly to the source and CALL your local Motor Vehicle office. Seems like a simple solution, and one I've used with much success.
Have to remember that one for the Sunday "how do I get a title with no vin" crowd that shows up every Sunday. Nubby there is no free lunch when it comes to getting a title on a vehicle without a title in any state but if you are willing to jump though a few hoops you should be able to get it done. This tidblt http://www.dmv.com/tn/tennessee/custom-vehicle-registration says you are lucky in that you get to register it as the year model it resembles. Along with the bill of sale for the body you are going to need proof that you legally own the rest of it. That means sales receipts from wrecking yards, a copy of the title for the doner car that gave up the engine, trans and rear end or other proof of ownership of the same. The more organized you are and the more complete your documentation is the easier time you will have. And get this done as soon as you have it looking like a car if you don't need it running. You want it to look safe but not expensive when you get it inspected.
. Just trying to see what different routes I can go with this I figured I wouldn't catch any shit for asking but I guess I deserve after the whole club thread
If Tennessee is anything like South Carolina if you go through the DMV for a title they will issue it as a 2011 and you will have trouble if you ever decide to sell it. Go through a title company and buy what you need,,still a PITA but not as bad as the alternative. BTW,I won't touch a car without one. HRP
yea nubby spend hours on end looking on here and not actually working on ur car like these guys do and then u can get on here and get but hurt over stupid questions. im over these damn sights where all the guys get on her and bash each other and that gives hot roding a bad name ill bet half these guys pay to have there cars done o i gota get off here and go work on my car fuck this shit i will not b back on here
Geez, Come on guys, you had your fun with the man over the club thing, why can't you just answer the poor guys question? Nubby, I put a bond up on my Illinois title to get things right, I'm not sure of just how Tennessee is going to be about the title however, I would find out as much as I could about what you need to do before you get the car all painted and fully finished. The reason being the bond is based upon the vehicles value. If you pre fit and prime the car and get it appraised in that condition it will appraise for a lot less than if it is fully fitted out, this affects a bond cost if needed. The law by me says must be operational in paint which could be sealer and all safety stuff. It cost me several thousand in taxes and bonding to learn this, I'm passing on a bit of info hoping to save you a few bucks at the tax man. Maybe it is easier than a bond out, I hope so, but don't get her all pretty and then find out.
Your paint on the car looks really nice, that is a hard color to shoot evenly. You are a good painter, the rest of the ride looks good too.
Fox, if you go up to the top and do a search for "Title" in the thread title, there are 20 pages of them! It has been asked many times! If you spend a while looking through those threads, they seem to have a few things in common. They are posted by FNGs, they ask what is the cheapest easiest way to avoid the matter and almost all do not come back and report the results after the question. They also tend to provide incomplete info, moan about how hard it is and they end up with answers from all over the country when only the people from that state can offer insight. If anyone had really searched for and read the posts on titles, they would have run across this one that has the best source for all the info for all the states. If they had, they would know what they needed. BTW, it took 2 minutes to find it from the search, on page 2 or 3. Even the title is a good explaination of what's inside. Everything You Need to Register and Title Your Hobby Car in All 50 States http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=565901 We all start somewhere, and asking a question is a great way to learn, but another is to see if someone has asked before, what the answers were and how it all ended up. If you do ask a question about something, share what the final result is too! It's about give and take, and also confirming things. Nubby, sorry if my response was a bit short. I hope that this doesn't chase you off, but be a better member. There is a great deal of great info here from at least 10 years. Sure some things change, but a lot of stuff remains the same. I also hope that if you plan on a modification to your ride or are going to buy a part, that you check past posts. It has often been discussed before, and it is smart to check on things before cutting something up or sending money!
What the guy said about getting an original T engine is probably your best option - all Model Ts had no numbers on the car's body or frame from new, the only stamped number was on the engine. Ford even made those engines for years after as service replacements and to be used in generators and welders and so forth. And once you have the title, just tuck the block in the corner of the garage, use it to support a work bench, whatever.
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