If you have the fire and the where with all to save history even tough it's not to your critic's standards, I say why don't you do it better if you think you have the balls to do it! I hope there are still more guys like him out there.
Looking for a frame for a gasser project? That Willys sedan could fit the bill.The Fords should go quickly and the Chrysler AirFlow is a rare bird. Can anybody identify what the humpback without a trunklid is? Somebody keep us posted on the sales prices!
I'm with you on this one! I've personally seen many people who have done that! Some of the cars they have let turn to shit just blow my mind! To me, they are just like the people who collect stray animals, get overwhelmed by the number they have brought home, then have them taken away by the humane society and destroyed anyway!! So I can go along with the fact that this guy saved some of this stuff from a scrapper FOR A WHILE, since probably half of this will STILL end up there anyway. What I can't understand is the mentality of leaving out what look to have been restored or at least very well preserved originals outside to turn to shit? I'm especially talking about the model A and 35 roadsters, 36 tudor and the Franklin. I doubt those would have been scrapped even if he hadn't saved them. I bet those have sat outside for less than 10 years!! We all know the converts and most of the 2 door stuff will be saved. Half of them will go to someone who will actually get them back on the road within the next 10 years. Then the other half of them will get stuck in or behind a barn, and left to rot just like they did here. The 4 doors, and really rough stuff will get bought by the scrappers. As much as everyone talks about saving this stuff, the reality is, NO ONE WILL STEP UP ON MOST OF THE 4 DOORS AND THEY WILL BE CRUSHED. So he bought them for at most couple hundred bucks 25 years ago, drug them to this field, either wouldn't sell them, or wanted 2x what they were really worth, so they sat there and rotted, and got the glass broke out and parts stolen, and he now MIGHT get $300 for them from a scrap guy. So did he really save them, or just prolong their ultimate death?
Exatctly Go there and buy cars and fix them up Now when you have your chance. So you dont have to wine about it Or is it the same old story as usual ooo i dont have the money now,to far away,my wife dont let me buy it ........sounds better/cooler to say oooo he dont sell anything just let it sit and rot......
ok will someone post a link? i went to the one provided and did not see the cars, just old auction.pdf.. i just need a cowl. so i can build a wood body speedster/roadster thing.. and i am to far away chris.
It makes me laugh how people complain that old cars get ruined but will justify old cars that are ruined.because someone collected them doesn't mean he can't ruin them.
I'll be there. Hopefully the scrappers don't get too crazy. Some are paying as much as $10-$12 per hundred which could push the prices up to $350-$400 per car.
thank you. wow, quite the collection.. hope you guys buy some before its cleaned up as they say on the webpage. i for see a huge influx of old stuff on ebay chris.
Sedan with the missing door and deck lid is a '37 Chrysler. Yes, scrap is up, here in town I can get around $325 a ton, making the average car worth $600 easily. Last week I took a car to a place that paid me $250 and I got $400 for a car with no rearend and a ton of other parts off it. The scrap guy roughly doubles his money when the car is "processed" (IE crushed) so he can still profit at close to $1000 per two ton car. So I wouldn't hold my breath for $400 cars.
Exactly.Either pay up or shut up.All the complaining about prices be it at this auction or a car at a back yard comes down to the above quote.I was at a yard one day a guy was looking over the cars and wanted to buy one but was trying to tell me he should be able to buy it for $150.00 because "thats all it was worth" I told him it was worth $450-500 over the scales and he was adamant that it should be sold for less to him so he could "save" it. When did the the junkyard owner or the owner of the cars that started this thread right to practice capitalism cease to exist? This guy owned the cars and if nobody was willing to pay his price thats how it went.Some folks just cant get it through their head that just because they want something the owner(especially a yard or collector or collector heirs) should sell it to them at a loss.
That's nice that someone wants to be noble and "save" a car, but you have to realize these scrap guys just see metal there, and couldn't give a shit if it's a wrecked '84 Ford Escort or a complete, barn fresh Deusenberg. It weighs X and that makes it worth $X per ton and that's that. If you think it's not worth what it will bring over the scales, then it's probably better off to scrap it -
Or they could have been bought by other people who actually restored them and put them on the road for a 1/4 of the cost needed to put them on the road now. I hate hardcore hoarders!
would explain the post few weeks back about the guy having is project stolen from his backyard along with some other metal objects if i remember. chris.
Hey, all of ours have a price on them, come buy one. There's 250 of them between my buddy and I - from junk to decent, from cheap to ones priced more on personal interest than a market price, but they still have a price. So far this year I've sold two cars - I scrapped them. Everything else has been trades for better stuff other people scrapped, and the money from the cars I scrapped went into parts from stuff other people scrapped, too.
You seem to have forgotten scrap prices have NEVER been this high, so when this hoarder was buying these cars he clearly thought he was going to "restore" them, or was blatantly hoarding. Either way he had NO plans on selling them or scrapping them, otherwise he would have done it before he croaked. These cars should have gone to people with the ability to ACTUALLY build them. As far as buying your stuff, I don't need more projects. I don't believe in excesive hoarding, I live in reality and realize I can only build one car at a time. Sell your cars to people who need another project.
Man, you can call it hoarding or when they are built call them completed projects but you only get to "own" them for a period of time. Then the next guy gets to call you names and other guys buy em'. Who cares? As long as YOU enjoy them for now. It won't matter when your six feet under just like it doesn't matter to this guy now. Because of this guy lots of people will enjoy a true treasure hunt soon!
lot of cool stuff there. we sure are a funny bunch. i hope i live long enough to listen to all the people bitch about all the honda civics that got crushed...... now i say that to put it in context,[ from my worthless point of view anyway] looks like when this guy started aquiring these cars [like most of these collections that have been popping up] they weren't worth much to the general public at the time, so for a few bucks he got them and put them out to pasture, now X amount of years later the stuff is desireable/rare/worth money and we stare in disbeleif at the condition of the cars, it is what it is. i suggest we all start hoarding civics and cavaliers, few years from now our families can read about us, the dick that let all those civics rot away rather than protect them........lol. p.s. not to be taken serious in any way shape or form.
"AFTER the auction, ALL WILL BE CRUSHED. So this is your only chance to bid and buy. Plan now to attend this auction". If it's a special interest car that you want to see saved, stand right behind the scrappers and keep outbidding them until they backout because you've bid slightly over their scrap price limit. Otherwise, you'll see them come in right after and crush them on site and load them on a flatbed. If there's no "car guys" bidding on a particular item, it will be scrapper bidding against scrapper and you may watch a car roll off to the crusher far below scrap weight (less than $300). If you're local, going to the auction and have acreage to store cars, step up and save a few and send the vulture scrappers packin. Though there's some rare/desireable cars, there's a lot of undesireable 4 dr. sedans that Whiteley probably paid $200 for back when nobody wanted them. They'd probably been scrapped long ago had he not "parked them in a field and ruined them for us", LOL.
The auction site states that if you buy the vehicle you can strip it and leave it it behind. This way they collect twice. Good deal for a person with storage and or transportation issues. I think field stripping these vehicles will be difficult at best. Old fasteners tend to resist movement. I would be sure to bring a torch for cutting and heating fasteners. (if allowed)
Lot of people think it is a sin to accumulate so many cars and not do anything with them. In fact he did a service by preventing them from being destroyed, he was just a guardian till they are resurrected (hopefully)
I usually dont state my mind unless its sarcastic but this is getting a little ridiculous. I have three old trucks Ive been trying to get rid of (for a few bucks over scrap) now for a couple years. I just dont and wont have time to get to them. They are both in very similar condition to the ones in these pictures but yet no one wants them because "theyre too rough", "you dont have paperwork", "the parts that I need arent there", "they arent worth that in scrap"(thats my favorite one) I could go on and on.... some people get it, some dont, we should all respect it but sadly (obviously) too many wont.
Don,t let this nice pasture these cars are setting in fool you. A lot of trees were cut and moved to get most of these cars out. One truck has a block of wood 2 feet across in the frame where it was cut off above and below the frame to get it out. Hey, don,t bash this old man. I knew him, he just liked the old cars. Some peaple like to collect dollars, I guess I don,t I always seemed to part with mine. If you want one step up and buy one, otherwise just watch while other peaple get what you would like to have. Andy
as fordman, I have known this guy since I started driving, Im 51, he wasnt a dick, he just collected in his own way, I will be there to keep the scrappers honest, my shop is very close to the auction site...
As I stated before I once lived at siloam springs in 76&77 I saw and looked at many that where there back then. they where in poor condition 35 years ago. Im planning on attending but ill probaly not buy anything. My pulling rig only gets 10 MPG and its a 500 mile round trip. So I will drive my 4 cyl ranger and maby buy some small items. Ill take my camera and spectate. OldWolf
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