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Ethanol Killing our cars

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by hotrodbob, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. hotrodbob
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  2. spiderdeville
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  3. FrozenMerc
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    Really.... This crap again. Why does this keep coming up? I have been running 10% or more in my '51 For over 11 years now and have never had a problem. Hell, my dad runs 10% in his ORIGINAL '49 Packard without any problems. All of us living in the Midwest have been doing it for over a decade now. Set your car up with ethanol in mind and you will never have a problem.
     
  4. zman
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    we've had it for about 20 years here and I have run it in a number of old vehicles, new vehicles, motorcycles, lawn mowers, and on and on... no problems with it.
     
  5. 52pig
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    Grass is a pretty good source for making a wort for stilling alcohol, so yes please, more grass roots!

    Let's go!
     
  6. Dr. Frankensickle
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    Personaly,I love ethanol...
     
  7. zman
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    and I'm still waiting for more E85
     
  8. hotrodbob
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    Wish my experience was the same as yours. Guess the carb parts and fuel lines available in your area are different..
     
  9. J'st Wandering
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    It is true that the gasoline we get these days is not the same as years back but just maybe it isn't the ethanol that is the problem. The gas is poor on it's own.

    I have used ethanol for years. Only problem I have is gas boiling out of carb when stopped with a warm motor. I used gasoline without ethanol this summer and had the same problem. Answered the question for me; it is not the ethanol.

    Neal
     
  10. tubman
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    In Minnesota, just about every large station has a "Non-Oygenated" (NO alcohol) pump. I try to use it when I can, and the few times I have not been able to get it, I have used regular 10% blend. I've never had any problems with it. I personally think this is overblown. I just pulled my motorcycle out of extended storage (4 years) and it fired right up and didn't smell funny. Of course, when I put it a way, I made sure it had a fresh charge of Sea-Foam and was plumb full, leaving the smallest amount of air in the tank. Take normal precautions and everything will be all right.:)
     
  11. 69fury
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    i think E85 is a joke- it doesn't save that much more, the kids around town with 1200hp turbocharged camaros/mustangs get half the mileage, their exhaust is rotting off, they cant find it, and the octane varies so much that they have to test each tank for levels when they fill up.

    I dont want to drop the compression on my mill, but have a big Paxton, so i'm seriously thinking about forklift propane tank in the back- equivalent of about $2.25/gallon, 105 octane, get home on a supermarket grill-bottle if i goof on my odometer arithmetic...

    the 4x4/RV crowd has this stuff figured out bigtime...

    rick
     
  12. Bigcheese327
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    Hell, in the 1920s a lot of stations were diluting their gasoline with KEROSENE. Did your grandfather bitch about it? Or did he adapt to it?

    Where has the Yankee ingenuity gone?

    -Dave
     
  13. brad chevy
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    You can bitch all you want about the 10% ethanol,the 1st of the year its going to 15%. Only problem I have with the stuff is if you let it stand in a weed-eater or lawn-mower it eats the rubber gas hoses and gums up in the carbs. Its either deal with it or quit driving and that ain't going to happen.
     

  14. grass is good for a lot of things. :rolleyes:

    You fellas (that would be you fellas in general no one in particular) have got to stop the knee jerk reactions to whatever comes down the pike. Remember Chicken Little never solved a single problem. Be a problem solver and be part of the solution.
     
  15. sammamishsam
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    The quality of fuel in the 1930's was nowhere near what we have today and is part of the reason flatheads had 6 or 7 to 1 compression. It was cut with kerosene or naptha from what dad told me. You fill up when the station tanks are nearly empty and you get a lot of other less than desirable agents included for no additional charge. I'm with Pork n Beaner on this one. We have an Occupy Wall Street already, all bitching and no solutions. What do you want next? An Occupy the Refineries?
     
  16. Here's where you might find Ethonal-Free gasoline, by state. The list might not be 100% accurate, but it's a start.
    MIKE :)

    http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp
     
  17. SEMA is all over this.
    !0 % is okay its when the EPA want it up to 15 % or higher we have a problems.
    Join up with SEMA its free for you and your car clubs.
     
  18. hotroddon
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    propane is expensive here i buy it for my forge.. its no cheaper than gas.
    chris.
     
  20. 29sportcoupe
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    I bought my American made truck just so I can run E85. Its not about saving money, its about keeping it in this country. Wish the tree huggers would let us drill in our own country. Its a temporary bandaid til we figure out a good fuel source.
     
  21. Canada Jeff
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    Hmmm... didn't I just write something about this? Oh yeah, I did.

    Is it as big a deal as some would have us think? Probably not. Do your homework, and think critically without just taking hearsay at face value, and adapt or perish. Hot Rodders should have these skills by nature.
     
  22. Pop-Rodder
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    The only problem I get is when I leave it set in my weedeater or lawnmower, then it gums up the jets. If you kill the feed before you shut it down for storage, or empty it out, you won't have any problems. It's a problem that ISN'T going away any time soon, so we just have to learn to deal with it and get on with more important things.....like where the heck did I leave that ...( insert thingy here )...?...
     
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    I agree....... The stuff he was showing looked like it had been sitting for a loooooooooong time. That wasnt from being stored for the winter, that was from being neglected for years.

    If you know its going to sit for a long time, drain the gas from the tank and the carb, then pour some diesel in the carb bowl, and a gallon or two in the tank.
     
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  25. Good idea. I haven't heard anyone mention that since I was a kid before gasohol.

    See a solution instead of whining.
     
  26. nwbhotrod
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    I use Sea foam in all my toys its good stuff
     
  27. brad chevy
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    The video is just of old ,sat for a long time ,unmaintained parts,heck even the carb on the table hasn't seen any kind of gas in a long time. An unmaintained older car is going to have problems no matter now or back when we had leaded gas. If all you want is a car to look at and not drive ,buy a picture ,but don't blame it on the gas.
     
  28. Johnny99
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    A friend of mine is running E85 in his street driven 55 Chevy. Thumpin small block, hi 10's in the quarter:) Took some tuning and fiddlin, he almost gave up, he is liking it more and more all the time. And the price and availability compared to race gas is nice.
    John
     
  29. Ned Ludd
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