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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by salf100, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. 19Fordy
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    Stretched - making the vehicle longer by making the frame longer.
    Flush mounted - installing an exterior car part (such as a fender skirt or tailight) so that its exterior surface is even with the surrounding sheet metal.
    Flared - bending or adding metal to the edge of the car body such as the round opening of the fender opening or fender skirt so as to give it a raised appearance.
     
  2. salf100
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    I like the idea of the paint terms. Let do it. This thread has gotten much attention !
     
  3. 49ratfink
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    from California

     
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  5. shadams
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    Come on now, from the rest of his post its obvious he's trying to be a **** on purpose. Why is everyone so sensitive about race for crying out loud. Besides, if he really is a racist, who cares, why give him the attention his is craving by responding...

    Anyway, excuse my newbishness, but I have really been trying to figure out what makes a car a street rod, vs hot rod, vs custom and so on. I have read tons about it but everyone says something a little different. I really cant think of anything else too add though...
     
  6. Shadams
    It is one of those things that is hard to define. Its like Brandy and Cognac all Cognac is Brandy but not all Brandy is Cognac.

    All hotrods are customs but not all customs are hotrods. Someone isn't going to finish reading this and won't catch what I am saying, but you will. All hotrods are custom built, so in escense they are all customs. But not all customs are built to perform, some major in body mods and performance is not an issue so they are not all hotrods.

    As far as the street rod thing the real distinction is between traditional and modern. Some will argue that anything built before '48 is a street rod, the more modern concept has allowed that if it is not built like a race car of some type and it is not a "custom" it is a street rod. it gets real hazy. And certainly not to worry about build your ride as trad as you like, be happy with it and life goes on.

    Another thing to bear in mind is that terminology as well as build is regional, so unless you are speaking with someone where you live you may not get a good understanding of what is being said. Both parties are saying the same thing just using a different way to say it.

    Mitchel,
    You no doubt already know that as far as peoples go my preference is latino (someone said I can't use hispanic but they were racially biased). I am a guerro as I am also sure that you are aware. Anyway I suppose my preference makes me racially biased. :eek:

    Anyway gwetting past that "low riders" do have their roots in the traditional custom movement. They initially were stylized and as much as we hate to admit it, were stylized to fit into the latino culture. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that as far as I can tell. Somewhere along the way low riders became rolling billboards or works of art. They strayed away from the boring pan bimbo society and started to have a lot more flair. As far as I am concerned and I am sure that many will agree, even hoppers are still customs, highly stylized but still customs. The early low riders were as much a traditional custom as any other just built in a different style.
     
  7. Well said ,That quote pissed me off as well!
     
  8. stubbsrodandcustom
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    well if people get **** hurt about that .... so be it... but as porkand****** said just a few back... was orig the latino community vehicle and way of Kustom.... their movement has made Kustoms the way they are today and without it there would not be as many sick *** vehicles that have ever been made... you call me an arrogant ****... **** it... its a general comment ya dunce.... I didnt want to say mex or say some other slang... have many friends who are latino and we get along great... lowriders are pieces of art in many ways... do i like hydraulics... no... but their paint is second to none when done right... lacing, leafing, etc... you dont know me so dont act like you do... those were general comments... Im far from racist and get tired of people throwing this race card.... put the card in the deck and dont pull it out... If your going to start popping people like this for saying things... then the 20" wheel comment should fall under that for other people... but you didnt get irritated with that comment... grow up and realize not everyone in this world is out to put you down.. and you dont even know my ethnic background so now Ill make ya feel real bad... part hispanic here on my moms side..


    Updated orig post so you can put the card back in the deck..
     
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  9. shadams
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    Got it, so as an example. 1950 Chevy truck, with a LS1, dakota digital gauges, power windows, billet wheels, etc would most likely be cl***ified as a Street Rod. One with moonies and a 350 from an old car would be more of a Hot rod, while one more or less stock but channled/chopped and frenched this and that would be a custom. Of course it seems possible to be a combo of any or all three. Seems to be up to the individual what it is or what they have. Cool...
     
  10. 383 240z
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    Spot on Shadams. Keith
     
  11. Old&Low
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    x2 Spot on!
     
  12. I was taking a nap and a paint term blasted into my dreams of sugar plums.

    In the bay area they used to do what they called an overspray, gold was the most popular. Prior to clear on a candy job the car was closed up in the booth and the air was fogged with the "overspray" color. it only landed on the highspots. pretty neat looking trick.
     
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  13. chaos10meter
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    from PA.

  14. I'm going to agree on you with the fact I was out of line calling you a ****. But you did come on here bashing a lot of **** you even said...

    "Streetrod------overpriced easter egg painted car with crying kid doll"

    When the vehicle in your avatar looks pretty street roddy to me. Who gives a **** what other people like? Cars are cars. Build them the way you want to. I know lots of guys with pro streets that build them because they like to go fast not because they have small *****es.
     
  15. R.Otto
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    I am white as hell and I personally would love to own a lowrider. skinny white walls and wirewheels hydros and everything
     
  16. Lowriders are the ****!
     
  17. john~N~dallas
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    CATWALK...area behind the rear window in between the window and the trunk....

    took me a sec to figure this one out...
     
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  18. dana barlow
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    A men ;)
     
  19. stubbsrodandcustom
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    were cool.... and yeah i drill alot of people sometimes but this is the hamb... this is for traditionals and yeah i have a distaste for street rods... And the gal in the avatar is far from street rod..... just cause I got torque thrusts and some kustom touches dont make it a street rod. built and painted in the garage and gets driven often.. we all are here cause we got an obsession with the cars man or trucks... its what fuels our lives...

    something about me... i respect all kinds of cars and trucks cause there is time and effort and money put in em... and i can always find 1 good thing normally about one... i dont diss anyones ride unless its a 64 impala on 20s or something... pretty sure we can all say that lifted cars are stupid... unless its a g***er....
     
  20. RPM
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    What about the word "traditional" what does it mean?
     
  21. Sometimes around here it could mean.... Air Bags, Art Morrison Ch***is, Coil Overs, S-10 frames, Mustang II suspension, modern fuel injection, Air Conditioning, AM/FM/CD/MP3 Players, Buick Rivieras and a new one I just saw (although it did get the boot) PINTOS! :eek: :D
     
  22. FlatheadFanFromMI
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    The streetrods of the 1960's and 1970's are now called "survivors"
     
  23. A vehicle built in the syle of an era prior to 1964 is pretty much what we landed on back in the days prior to the kinder gentler HAMB.

    Old topic a link to a general mix of the old discussions should be included in the New to the HAMB Read This thread. Complete with the name calling so when I call someone a whistle head they realize that I am being nice. ;)

    Now back to custom terminology?
    Hammered: I am sure that it is regional but we used to call a car with the lid lowered Hammered.
     
  24. Amen brother.... AMEN! :cool:

    B.T.W.: I thought "Hammered" was what we get on a good night out. ;)
     
  25. My era was twisted but I remember being hammerd to the max more than once.

    I still recall being out with Jose in the world's lowest chebby when I was in high school. My first experience with Tequilla. Joe Crow if I recall and we were chasing it with Rum or Ron as Jose called. We didn't call it hammered but if we weren't we missed the best chance we ever had.

    Damn life has been good to me.
     
  26. theHIGHLANDER
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    Sorry john, that area is the "tulip panel" according to body engineers from the last 4-5 decades. The Catwalk is the area just blow the side windows on the doors and 1/4 panels. Some cars have a flat catwalk, some are rounded, some have a "stainless" catwalk fitted as a finished trim moulding. There's another name for a the tulip panel that's much less professional or technical. The old-timers used to call that spot the turtle deck. That too is very confusing as a turtle deck had become known as a trunk-styled rear area on a T-bucket making more of a genuine roadster that a roadster pickup.
     
  27. Don't know if anyone got theses.

    Cat whiskers for curb feelers

    Tunneled for lights that were really frenched.

    Molded for just about anything that is smoothed in, like grill surround, fenders, lakes pipes and etc.
     
  28. theHIGHLANDER
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    Street Rod is one of those labels that tends to chap the *** of some of the board's membership. The reality is that almost every hotrod in the game is a street rod. We take something and mod it up, make it faster, lighter, lower, change everything to suit our taste. It's just that the older stuff with or without fenders was following the post-war practice of turning it into something better suited to the individual desire. Then it got even more popular and cottage industries popped up. SEMA got bigger and more powerful. Cottage industries became multi-billion dollar conglomerates and a market was there to feed. That market got a name..."Street Rod" and the new buyers were "Street Rodders". So be it. It's a label that's not worth gettin yer undies in a twist over.

    The dreaded rat rod syndrome is another mutation that tries to mix mini trucks, traditional and historic racers and rods, and current street rods into one uninformed mess. Some of us can tell who's who in a lot of this. That *****in little T that Pinky's did about 4-5yrs ago, the nice rootbeer/Hemi car? I'll bet 10 guys came to me to say "Did see you that cool rat rod upstairs?", talking about our local Autorama. Then there's the guy that thinks everything with a 30s body, four door, tudor, coupe or roadster, well they're all "Street Roadsters" or Deuce Coupes. Yep, really well informed.


    Lowriders? Do we need to define that art form? Only with one word...kool.

    I'm glad that folks here like to clarify things from time to time. It makes it easier to understand what's going on and helps to sort through the **** you have little to no interest in. I figure I'm going to build a *****in lowrider Deuce coupe taildragger frenched kustom chopped channeled sectioned g***er Merc rat street rod some day. I'll name it "Alphabet Soup". Whadaya think?
     
  29. Only if you manage to mix several eras and make it period correct. :D

    I like the term street rod because it chaps a few, those are the ones that really need their cage rattled.

    I don't think that it really applies to customs but maybe it does.

    We used to say that a tail dragger had a power rake and that one that was down in the snout had a california rake.

    I feel like we either have covered everything that everyone knows or that the whole drama over low riders and their origins scared everyone away. Damned shame anyway you look at it.

    I think I have posted a lot of terminology and then the question pops up, "Who knows more about customs and the terminology there of than the '******?"
    Just about everyone.
     
  30. wojojo
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    If it ain't got an 8 track tape player it ain't traditional.....:D
     

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