What defines a Speedster ?

Studebaker got the proportions right!!! These guys, not so much...

 

^^^ratrodders!!

 

In '89 and once again in 2011, Porsche also introduced a limited edtition 911 speedster. Same genous as the 356. FLimsy covertible top, chopped windshield, lowerd suspension, IMHO THAT is a speedster regardless of make / model. Chopped, dropped, and open topped

 

and the pinto is also a bean... On topic responses would be nice

 

No. That, gentlemen, is an Edwardian Monstrosity: quite an interesting breed in its way. Here's another:


27-litre Fiat

 

Nedd, was that a nickname or an actual manufacturer?
Also, Is that a chain drive or a chain brake system on the side rear?

 

Um, no, they are a general type. They were made in the Edwardian era (strictly 1901-10, but in automotive terms 1901-18) and they were monstrous in their use of huge, slow-revving, low-output engines. There were a few later survivals of that but after WWI things like Laurence Pomeroy's Vauxhall fours were getting over 100bhp at around 3300rpm from less than a sixth of that Fiat's displacement.

That is indeed chain drive. The driven sprocket is barely any bigger than the drive sprocket, which gives you an idea of what the torque curve was like.

 

Thanks for the info!

 

You guys need to go running to see the http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380814&highlight=history+auto+racing

 

Thanks for the link! I feel bad, i think some of my comments may have started to hijack the thread.
millersgarage was looking for "Definitions of a Speedster".
examples are great but definitions are better...that way it doesnt start a gasser, altered, street beast argument!

 

Don't feel bad, only post a link, may be the guys in that post answer the question...in my country speedster it's synonym of baquet

 

This is a two cylinder Lyon-Peugeot built with a small bore and very long stroke - 250mm? - to take advantage of a particular race regulation.

 

The FIAT S76 was one of two built using a four cylinder airship engine. One is being recreated - http://theoldmotor.com/?s=FIAT+S76

 

I know, your talking about beans for crying out loud.....

I have enjoyed the examples too, but yeah, I was looking to see basically, what I could get away with building, and still be able to call it a Speedster. The examples are great to see, and have given me more and more ideas.

 

That's right, he was asking for definition of a speedster. I responded about 2 cars actually LABELD and sold under the name of speedster and how they differd from the rest of the linup. Then you went off on some tangent about my response being o.t. and beans. as far as I can tell my response was very on topic. Thanks for being a HAMB nazi, there's got to be one in every thread I guess.

How about you go to blast everyone that posted about a M.B or a Ferrari in this thread now and yeah I did it there too

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467338

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^^Wow...really??

 

WTF happened to my thread?

 

That better???

 

I tried but apparently Im a "HAMB nazi" now...

I was really hoping to get some information for my possible winter build.

oh, and ply 46, i liked your response...Ill hold back a tirade for now in hopes this gets back on track...

 

I gave it a stab in post 6. The same definition happens to apply equally to speedster and special: Original frame, possibly modified; often the original engine or similar, very probably modified; and a fabricated lightweight, rakish open body. The base vehicle is pre-1935ish, and the idiom of the build can be either 1901-18 or 1919-30. How's that?

 

Ned, I agree about the speedster/special thought, but from what I've seen, the speedster idea dies out with the T in '27, where the special holds on a little longer (Chevrolet Moonlight Spl runs to about '32).

 

http://www.nwvs.org/CarPhotos/053/053.shtml

that is a good looking model A special.

 

this on the other hand is...

 

Damn HAMB Nazi's

Here's another one for you. It's the predecessor of Banger Matt's red one from earlier in the thread.

 

ooh, here's a new to me term, Raceabout.

I think that is what I'll call my build

 

speed·ster /'spidst?r/ noun: a hot rod that is allowed to go on tours with restored cars of the same type because it doesn't look any newer than them.

-Dave

 

OK ,bigcheese327 wins for the best definition!

very funny Dave

 

That thing is BAD ASS! I would love to see some build photos of that...

 

touching on my thread again...

Is running a flathead v8 out of the question?

I am building my idea in scale at the moment, just to get an idea of how it would look.

 

I’m unaware of any historical precedent, aside from some “buckboard” modifieds from the 1930s (radiator, engine, cowl, and chassis only); but in my mind, the Rootlieb-style speedster would look pretty cool updated with ‘32-‘34 V8 axles, wires, and engine. Like teenaged nephew drug wild uncle’s old heap out of the barn and built it into a hot rod, circa 1940.

-Dave