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23 studebaker roadster?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Demek, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. Demek
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    Anyone have any info on this or any pictures? It's a 4 door that I'm buying and would like to know a little more about these if anyone could help. Thanks
     
  2. F&J
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    A 4dr open car would be a "touring".

    Those Studes came in 2 sizes. The Light Six and a bigger model that I'd have to look up the name. They are fairly big cars.

    I had a 23 Light Six converted to a wrecker. I do have pics.
     
  3. F&J
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    23 Light Six:

    The engine is a "headless design" The cylinders and combustion chambers are cast as one big casting. Kind of a much older design for 1923. To get the valves out, there are 12 "port plugs" threaded in. Spark plugs go into 6 of them and then there are "primer cups" in the other 6, to fill with gas on cold days.
     

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    Oh, I forgot; See the small horizontal starter motor? that is chain drive down to the crankshaft with a one way clutch deal. Then the vertical generator is pretty odd as well.

    That upper water manifold on top is subject to freeze cracking because it is very thin.

    These cars have open flywheel and you can see the clutch without taking things apart.
     
  5. Demek
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    Wow thanks I wish I could post a picture but I don't know how to do it since its on my phone. I'm only getting the body of it so I was planning on just putting a flathead Ford in it. Especially now considering what the chances of finding a stock mill would be.
     
  6. F&J
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    I think I still have a pair of 23 windshield posts, and parts of the windshield frames.
     
  7. Demek
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    If u were to send me your email I could send you these pictures of it that I have. It's like nothing iv seen befor, all of the body lines are recessed instead of being raised. It will definitely be unique haha
     
  8. F&J
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    here's your pics...

    and I looked in a book, There were 3 models in 23. Light six, special six, and big six.

    Yours looks like a huge car.
     

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    THAT would have been a beautifull car when it was new.....
     
  10. Demek
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    Thanks...its really not that big in person although it does look pretty long in those pictures. I'm planning on taking about 18 inches out of it somewhere and making it a 2 door and using the rear doors.
     
  11. Rusty O'Toole
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    In those days the big Studebaker was sometimes called the Whiskey Six. It was a favorite with bootleggers. In those days the working bootlegger wanted a big fast car that was not too conspicuous. The Studebaker Whiskey Six and Hudson Super Six were favorites along with the REO Speedwagon 1 1/2 ton truck.

    Big bootleggers in the movies may have swanned around in Cadillac limousines and Lincoln touring cars but those cars were too fancy for delivering a load.
     
  12. Chrisbcritter
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    F&J, what's that convertible coupe in the fifth picture - senior series Nash?
     
  13. F&J that pickup truck conversion of yours is earlier than 1923 and is not a Light Six. The 'new' Light Six (Model EJ) came out in April 1920 and had a removeable aluminium cyliner head. It was the model that went on to become the Standard Six later on and in its initial form was 207 cubic inch. Your engine with the non-detachable head is the earlier Light Six (Model EH) which became the Special Six when the new Light Six came out. This model was first introduced in February 1918 but got a detachable head somewhere along the way in the next year or so. Your engine should be 3 1/2" x 5" which is 288 cubic inch. See if you can find a serial number - stamped on an aluminium plate on the left side frame rail under the front fender - and an engine number stamped on the starter motor support. The Big Six of this era was basically the same engine except it had a detachable head and was 3 7/8" bore which made it 353 cubes.
     
  14. Yes, this is a 1923-24 Studebaker Light Six Model EM touring - it is an all steel body. Note the recesses in the windshield base for the cowl lamps. The wheelbase of the original car was 112" and it would originally have been painted all black, wheels included. This was Studebaker's volume model that year and as with Fords the colour that dried fastest was black. Studebaker built about 110,000 of them, including a few coupes, sedans and roadsters, over two years. The original 207 cid engine made 40hp @ 2000rpm. The original tyre size was 31 x 4 (4" tyres on 23" rims). Remember this is all before the advent of good roads and leaded gas, that contributed to more power and more speed.
     
  15. F&J
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    Yes, you are right. That one was a 1918. I have had too many oldies here and i forgot:eek:






    It's the smallest series "later" 1932 Nash model 1060 2dr conv sedan 5 passenger. I still have it, and hope to finish it.
     
  16. That '32 Nash will be a good looking car when it is done. Anything 1932 is rare but a convertible sedan from a smaller manufacturer must be super rare. Nash only built just less than 18,000 cars for 1932 in a myriad of different models.
     
  17. F&J
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    Mine is body number 38. I have only found 2 exact matches in 3 years online. One in South America and the other in Panama. I have yet to see a 32 1060 convertible coupe, they may be extinct.
     
  18. This is my 24 light six rpu. The light six was only a small touring and was meant to be the second car for a family. It was marketed early on as "the little womens" car for running to the market and such. Probably the first car aimed at the female market. Image that... I think it was only made two years 1923-1924, and most of the 24's were leftover 23's. Very little wood was used by Studebaker in these models making them pretty advanced for the day. I think the light six is smaller than a T, as I barely fit in it. But then again I should be on a diet...
     

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  19. On average, people are bigger now than they were a hundred years ago. I think most people find cars of that era tight fit.

    The Light Six might have been a lower price car but it was still over $1000 when a T touring in 1923 was only around $400.
     

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