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Nov. 2011 Banger thread. Really...November?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Crazydaddyo, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. No, in my opinion that is a little worn. My advice would be to run it and if it will idle slow enough to suit you then OK. If not I have built that portion with JB weld adding a small amount daily and dressing off the excess on the flats. Final match to bore with thin wet or dry fitted to curvature of ID of throttle body. Sliding it slowly while closing butterfly is the method I use I have done this when necessary to match duals at idle.

    Warning! JB weld will deteriorate when racing fuels or AV gas is used.
     
  2. Damn, I could smell the exhaust!
     
  3. Hey Jim, I resemble that remark...:eek:
    The muffler is a straight thru (a Super Trap without the baffles) . It could be out of tune but that will have to wait until next spring as it will be put away anyday now. We are supposed to get snow any hour:(. Plan out your "Tuning Course For Dummies 101" because you know we will be calling on your expertise.
    Ron
    p.s. Did you notice the idle reading on the tach ? 250 rpm
     
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  4. Thanks Bill- will do!
     
  5. Bluto
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    THE MUFFLER IS CHOAKING THE MOTOR!!!!!!!! To muffle it slows the exhaust gasses!!

    Supertrap is junk!! Motorcycle crap HONEST!!
     
  6. I will try it without it before I put it away this weekend Jim and will try another video with sound.
    Ron
     
  7. RussTee
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    Ron I have found out the hard way that the best way to tune a car is to put it on a rolling road well worth the effort and the cost. Work with someone who knows what you have got electronic type ignitions have a lot of little tricks and adjustments mine really sang after adjusting I thought it was good but it came back a different car the guy who worked on it knew all the tricks and took real pride in getting the best out of it . We mix parts not designed specificly for our motors and at times small adjustments make them all fit.
     
  8. RussTee
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    Following my earlier post this is what I have found out .
    There are three main types of safety hubs or addaptions.
    As above as pointed out by Pat probably the best traditional setup.
    Then the clips that go from the backing plates out over the drums Vern Tardel does a version of these.
    Then a modern addaption of modern style axles rod and custom did a piece on these a while ago.
    They can all be found by doing a search on the web it is well worth the effort and is a great safety improvement and is usually a must for any speed event
     
  9. fordrat31
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    Wow some of the items went for crazy money and others I thought were fair. To me most of the complete A's went for prices that were fair, but 1,800$ for a 32 grill shell is just crazy. I'm kinda glad I didn't waste my time heading out there. Although it would have been neat to see all the stuff.
     
  10. V4F
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    first , i am NOT an overhead person . i like them , but i have been told by a few different people who run overheads , that the overhead is tuff to maintain on the street (racing set-up) . i have an "A" motor that i truely like . i had thought about the overhead , the warning stopped me . like wise on HC heads . my car is an everyday driver . only car i own . so i maybe over causious . broken cranks cost alot of $$ & frustration . good luck !! ............... steve
     
  11. Bluto
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    Steve

    Racing always cost money. Stressing parts above and really beyond their design limits THEY BREAK!

    There are all levels of the hobby here but often, since this is a hot rod site, people that post are hot rodders. Most have made the commitment to these large expensive noises created by modifications.

    Remember when you drive:

    These broke when NEW!

    How much extra time and money do I want to get beaten light to light by some kid with a ''Coffee Car'' exhaust tip?

    For most of my life I have spend every cent I have on making things go faster than they were ever intended.

    I had no vacations for 50 years. Lived in my shop. No kids. No wife. Nothing extra..... Most things others can't live without ........ Just to hear my cars at the very edge of what they can do.

    I would do it all over again in a heartbeat.

    Steve If you have to ask the question to yourself ..... you shouldn't My friend ..... keep it simple and enjoy driving
     
  12. V4F
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    jim ,
    i do hear you . i have raced most of my life . broke a lot of stuff . i blew a brand new motor up in the garage , never made 3 minutes . but that is racin . i was under the impression he was using it on the street . racing i understand . my lil banger gets plenty of abuse , but i have so much fun with it !! ........... take care jim !! .............. steve
     
  13. V4F
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    i use a 12" porter on my car . great sound & basically no back pressure . just a thought ... steve
     
  14. V4F
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    ive run super traps . we even ran them on sprint cars . if you play with the baffels you can get the sound you want . the porter was the sound i wanted & he builds to fit ... steve
     
  15. V4F
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    i put this in the oct meet before i found the nov meet ..................

    oh crap again . forgot why i came here .
    *** just MHO ... ive had my "A" about 10 yrs now . being a tinkerer , i have tried alot of different set-ups (tires , carbs , ignition , manifolds , etc) . i have just finished another set-up . i have a s-10 5 speed & a new weber carb set-up . these 2 changes made my car a whole different car . the 5 speed is by far the best way to go , the weber surprised me ! it makes the car lots more user friendly . the 2 together (5 speed & weber) made my car extremly comfortable to drive , dare i say totally awesome . i put a lokar pedal/cable set up & does it make the throttle very ez & consistent . its like i have a new hot rod !! ......... just info . i was so impressed i had to share .................. steve
     
  16. Bluto
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    Steve you used a bigger trap on your sprinter. He's got a 125cc dirt bike one.
     
  17. Jim; 125 cc dirt bikes run a 2" dia pipe ?
     
  18. BCCHOPIT
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  19. Peter J
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    Hey Guys,
    I'm usually over at the Ford Barn side but I think you can answer this off the tops of your collective heads:
    A couple of us are rebuilding two B blocks. We were ready to fire them up and found that his water pump is about 1/4-1/2 inch shorter?? He swears up an down it came with the setup but none of the pulleys even match. What's up? Where did the short water pump come from? It bolts up fine.
    Thanks,
    Pete
     
  20. GO HERE I think you will find the model 46 had a different combination of pump and pulleys. Check the timing gear covers. http://www.fordgarage.com/
     
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  21. Peter J
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    Bill,
    Thanks! That exacially what he has. Swore up and down that the Fords didn't have slanted radiators. WRONG!
    Pete
     
  22. mramc1
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    I think a lot of the A parts went for way too much money, $500 for three A grille shells? $400 for a pile of Ahooga horns?? $800 for a Ruxtell TT rear? I tried to sell a Ruxtell for two years at scrap price before I just stuck it in my doodlebug. But then the cars were cheap! A lot of the A's were less than $3000. Someone bought that mint looking '37 2-door for $4000??!

    Josh Quick
    Quick Speed Shop
     
  23. BCCHOPIT
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    I forgot what a slug a stock model A is. I have a nice B cam but I am thinking a little more. Any one have a mild cam just sitting around.

    The Tudor has more in it with a little tuning but it needs a head - cam and a 94 real bad. Now I know why all the stock guys think 45 is fast.
     
  24. Crazydaddyo
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    Don't forget that the stock brakes think 45 is fast too.


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  25. BCCHOPIT
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    Brake up grade is in the works also
    In the end the drive line will be under a speedster.
    I hope after the wife cools down she will drive it so it will have the best of brakes hiding under the fenders
     
  26. Stovebolt
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    Can anyone tell me if a V8 clutch throwout bearing is the same as a banger?

    There is a HAMBer selling throwout bearings to suit GM T5's into shoeboxes, and I think I need one to suit the Chev diameter throwout bearing my trans uses.

    thanks oh wise ones.
     
  27. 1932tub
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    Just getting ready to put a B motor and 32 box into my 30 A pickup.
    I realise that I will have to remount the pedals and handbrake, anyone have a pic of what they have done? I am not changing to hydraulic brakes.
    Any tips welcome.
     
  28. BHT8BALL
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    I realize the view isn't ideal, but it should get you looking in the right direction, trans in the picture is V8 but the problem is the same as yours. Pat
     

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  29. 1932tub
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    Thanks Pat I was thinking I would have to build a bracket for the pedals
     
  30. youngster
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    There are kits available from Sacramento Ford for mounting the pedals, e-brake and unsplit wishbone.

    Ron
     

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