History We ALL Love a DARE! PIX of TRULY Extinct Makes?

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From: http://www.classiccarcatalogue.com


[FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]Front view of NASH emphasizes the very European origin of design. First American car to have hood et fender level. the entire hood - fender - headlight - bumper assembly is counterbalanced and swings up for engine and front end service in same manner as on the German STOEWER. Grille has shape and location similar to CISITALIA while cowl-windshield line previously appeared on ZAGATO.[/FONT]


[FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]Rear view of the new Nash n.x.i. reveals clever use of front bumper at rear. Spare tire slides thru grille opening to mount in typical British manner (see HEALEY Silverstone). Hood stamping is duplicated for rear deck.
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See thread #3035

 

1915 Bartlett built in Toronto. HAMBer Mart up in Canada is trying to learn
ANYTHING about the history of this make. A bunch of engineering gadgetry.
Anybody wanna speculate if ONE survives???

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www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/Canada/1915%20Bartlett%20Brochur...





HJManiac (Mike) posted the following on Jan. 29, '10 (Post #2118) on this thread. Sounds as though the Bartlett -- despite its several engineering gadgets -- was otherwise largely an assembled car. Also interesting: It was around all the way from 1914 through 1917, though numbers were quite low. This seems to increase the probability that the Bartlett is today EXTINCT, for all intents and purposes.

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And here's my buddy PonchoRunner in that very automobile:



-Dave

 

Hey Bigcheese327 your buddy Ponchorunner might have gotten to drive it but I had the REAL fun. I got to cut those 50+ yr old petrified black tires off those wheels without chipping the paint so those nice new cushy white tires could be mounted for safe driving.

 

Hmm, your definition of fun and mine vary considerably.

So you work with Derek?

-Dave

 

I am a Displaced Wednesday night volunteer. My fun was taken away.

Half of the projects I worked on were sold off to pay big salaries and fund other peoples fun.

 

From: http://www.american-automobiles.com/Queen.html

The Queen Automobile & The C. H. Blomstrom Motor Co.

Queen
The C. H. Blomstrom Motor Co.
Detroit, MI
1904-1906

In 1904, Carl H. Blomstrom introduced an American Automobile called the "Queen" and had a very successful season. The Queen was the same small single cylinder engine and patented two cylinder opposed engine Runabouts he produced in Detroit as the Blomstrom in 1902 and 1903. Three new models were built for 1905 and 1906. A Queen Runabout and two Touring Car of different horsepower.


The 1905 Queen Model B gasoline cars shown below included a Runabout with and without a Tonneau. Price for the 1905 Runabout was $775.00 for $100.00 more you add the Tonneau and carry two more passengers. A model C included a Tonneau, larger engine and was priced at $950.00.
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1905 Queen Model B & Model C </CENTER>
The 1905 Queen model B Runabout was equipped with a two cylinder opposed engine rated at 12 horsepower. The model C Touring Car was equipped with a larger two cylinder opposed 16 horsepower engine.
The two passenger Queen Runabout model F shown below was equipped with a 12-14 horsepower two cylinder engine and a two speed planetary transmission. It was chain driven and had a 78 inch wheel base. This Runabout sold for $800.00
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1905 Queen Magazine Ad - Three New Models For 1906 </CENTER>
The five passenger Queen Touring Car had a detachable Tonneau side entrance. This new model had a 18 horsepower two cylinder engine, two speed planetary transmission and like the Roadster was chain driven. This Touring car with a wheel base of 84 inches sold for $1,100.00.
At $2,000.00 the five passenger Queen Touring Car with 26-28 horsepower engine was the C. H. Blomstrom Motor Company's best seller. Special features include a 4 cylinder 26-28 horsepower, sliding gear three speed transmission, bevel gear drive, pressed steel frame and 100 inch wheel base.
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1906 Queen Model K Touring Car </CENTER>
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1905 Queen Model F Runabout </CENTER>
In October 1906, after building about 1,500 Queens, the C. H. Blomstrom Motor Company combined with the De Luxe Motor Car Company. The De Luxe Motor Car Company produced another American Automobiles called the Car Deluxe in 1906. The main stock holder in De Luxe Motor Car Company was Nathan M. Kaufman who was also a partner with C. H. Blomstrom in the C. H. Blomstrom Motor Co.
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Okay, HERE is a puzzler for ya! This is
AIR-COOLED and not a Detroit Electric.
Anybody know if one still EXISTS???

 

I don't remember where I ran onto this gorgeous illustration of a 1937 Graham Supercharger
convertible, but I thought others would enjoy it too. Of course, in the spirit of the thread
theme, I wonder just how many -- or FEW -- 'verts were turned out for '37. And, how many
of these survive?

I thought this beautiful car a breath of fresh air, following on the sad shared REO body of '36,
yet predating the '38 Spirit of Motion and the final Hollywood version of the coffin-nose Cords.

 

I like that ‘37, but I have a particular weakness for the Spirit of Motion cars, although I never understood why all you ever see are those frumpy sedan bodies. If I were a man of means, I’d find a supercharged sedan, and commission Marcel DeLay to build me a swoopy roadster body to match that nose, and finish it off with a vee’d, DuVall-style windshield.

-Dave

 

I like the way you think. And, I'll bet some other regulars here will agree with the custom-bodied versions!

 

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Coachwork: Worblaufen
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Like many American automobile companies, Graham exported automobiles to Europe. This Graham was shipped to Switzerland as a chassis and received a body designed and built by the coach building firm Worblaufen.

The 116 Series was built on a 116-inch wheelbase chassis and was powered by a six-cylinder, supercharged engine that provided an exciting ride.

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Graham introduced its supercharged models in 1934. The Great Depression was in full swing, as was the cylinder wars. Cadillac and Marmon both have V-16 cars, and many other manufacturers were offering high-horsepower Twelve and Eight cylinder cars.

Graham originally used only the supercharger on the 8-cylinder models. By 1936, the supercharger was adapted to the 6-cylinder engine. The Model 116 was one of the models with the supercharged version of the six-cylinder engine, and it had a wheelbase that measured 116-inches.
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http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z17504/Graham-Paige-Series-116.aspx

 

Detroit Air Cooled (D.A.C.) Car company 1922-1923.

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The Detroit Air Cooled Co.
Wayne, Michigan
1922-1923 The Detroit Air Cooled Co. was established in the spring of 1922 by W. J. Doughty in Detroit, Michigan. Their sales office was located at 3745 Cass Avenue in Detroit. The former plant of the Harron Motor Company in Wayne, Michigan was purchased October 1, 1922. D. A. C. Touring Cars, Phaeton and Sedans were made in 1922 and 1923 only.
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W. J. Doughty, was President and General Manager of the Detroit Air Cooled Car Co. Charles F. Remington was Vice-president and G. R. Tremolada the engineer that designed the D.A.C. automobiles.


Thanks to the American Automobile Website.

 

American-Automobiles.com is indeed a great resource, often containing info about obscure makes which other sources do not have. But the question remains:

DETROIT AIR-COOLED
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AWESOME lines on this '37 Supercharger! Sharp without running boards, too! Honestly, I have to say
that I really respect Joe and Bob Grahams' efforts during the dismal '30s, both stylewise and engineering-
wise. Because power and reliability were a key chosen marketing angle for Graham, the supercharger
option was a real plus (and, interestingly, the supercharged Grahams got good gas mileage!). As I recall,
the "Supercharger" model name was advantageous, even though not all Superchargers were ordered
with a Kishline blower.

But foremost, I really like the fact that -- from the Blue Streak onward -- designers crafted bodies that had
their own identities. You just didn't mistake a Graham for anything else (unless you include that unfor-
tunate '36 REO! LOL).

Oh, and while we're on the subject of coachbuilt Grahams, we should be reminded of the French '38
Sharknose convertible, too. Jim/SunRoofCord posted nice photos a while back.





I suppose it is easy to analyze events under a microscope some 75 years after the fact.
But I still feel pangs of regret that Graham and several of the other independents strived SO
hard to both stay afloat AND build sharp, even groundbreaking cars and trucks during the
depression years -- many of them falling by the wayside, year by withering year. It does
not require any wise retrospect to grasp that production costs and unit prices were so key
in the battle against low-cost vehicles from the mass-production giants that only tightened
their market grip during the '30s.

 

For the sake of conversation, here's an excerpt from a Wikipedia item on Graham's under-hood, crank-driven supercharger unit:

"It was an original design, not a Switzer-Cummins or Duesenberg design. Through the years, Graham would produce more supercharged cars than any other automobile manufacturer until Buick surpassed them in the 1990s."

Being polite here, I do recall an assertion by some 'net historian that the similarity of the Kishline (Graham) supercharger was a little too close in design to the Deusy unit to pass for a coincidence, though Deusenberg apparently never took any action against Graham. Was it, maybe, an old-fashion case of "imitation is the finest form of flattery"???

Any HAMBer happen to have PHOTOS of the two units, for comparison's sake?

 

Reminds me of a bumper sticker a friend reported seeing a while back: ”Bail Out Studebaker!”

-Dave

 

I dug out that '39 ragtop. Way cool. I'd seen the white one before in a tiny thumbnail pic, but I'm absolutely in love with the blue one. I have to say that the earlier, black cabrio is a bit too Teutonic for my taste, however.

-Dave

 

Teutonic! Love it. But YEAH, the rear esp. favors the Mercedes of the mid-'30s, eh?

 

1936 Graham Supercharger

 

1935 Duesdenberg Model SJ

 

1910 2 Cylinder Sullivan Delivery Wagon Model 20 - Sullivan Motor Car Company, Rochester. NY

 

As everybody will recall, we've featured numerous cars made unique by
having been owned by famous people. Here's Walt Disney with his '39
DeSoto Custom or DeLuxe, not sure which. Depending, the 228-CID six
could be had with 7-to-1 compression, up a tick from the standard 6.5. That
would have boosted the 93 hp a tad. Though the source I searched did not
mention overdrive as an option, I once met an old junkyard owner who
proudly recounted his '39 DeS with O.D. going well over 90 on straights.
Pretty sure the rear ends were standard at 4-to-one. I think the standard wb
for most models was 119. The California Taxi model was 136," the limo up to
202 inches (!).

In the K.T. Keller era, DeSoto hung its advertising hat on print and radio
(later TV, too) ads with celebrities shilling the brand, usually touting DeS
dependability, comfort, mileage AND value in the mid-price market. (THAT
conservative image would persist until the new '55 models opened eyes!)
Fresh from the success and notoriety of his first full-length animated feature,
"Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs," Walt posed for a series of '39 DeSoto
color magazine ads. People have speculated whether Walt actually owned
this DeSoto. My WAG is: If not THIS DeS, then one of another color. At any
rate, I wonder if he kept it or traded it off down the road a few years(?).
Anyone have knowledge???

 

You are comparing it to the wrong ACD product. Try the Auburn. I would note however, that Graham produced their blower in 1934 while Auburn didn't introduce theirs until 1935.

 

'49 Caddy 62. I guess this one falls into our NEVER-WUZ category!
Sort of looks as though somebody at Cad was missing the LaSalle
and liked Alex's Tucker!

 

Huge THANKS, AlsAncle! Can you lay hands on a pic or two
of the Auburn charger???

 

OOPS! The pic loaded after I'd posted! But the Auburn design surely looks a lot more like the Graham (Kishline) unit. Suppose there could Have been a tad of industrial espionage going on around that time?