I have been thinking about picking up a new winter project. I have run across a couple without ***les. I dont suspect foul play. They have been cars form the 50's and 60's that have been sold a few times and have not been registered in decades. I know most states dont requre ***les but M***achusetts is pretty strict and requres a ***le or a bill of sale and a prior registration. Has anyone found a way in MA to register an older vehicle without one? I have seen the ads for companies that do the ***le search. Are they legit? Do they usually come through? I have walked away from a few great cars that I would have loved to own but I dont want to end up with something I can't register.
You don't read hamb very much...there was a recent thread on M*** no-***le issues and answers. Also the topic of using ***le companies has been thrashed here many times. Use some related search words in the search page and you will find them.
Just get a trailor and bring the car up to vt and ur golden......that's what most of the ***ling companies do.....in vt u don't need a residence to register something and once its registered cancell the reg and plates and go to the m*** dmv and get it ***led in m***......I've done it a few times
I have been a member for a while but just poke around. I went and found the post. The steps are all there but it would make be nervous. It's really that easy to register in VT? Do they do a visual inspection?
I think the key would be to register, if you can, before putting very much money into something. That way, if it fails, your not out a lot.
Western M***, lets see what sounds easier - Buy in M*** and deal with the "holyer than thou" at***ude of the DMV inspector, the secretary behind the counter at the DMV office and any other BS they decide to grace you with. OR A scenic ride on Route 9 over Hog's back mountian and stopping to enjoy the view (you know where). Strolling into Bennington, VT to drool at Hemmings garage collection (though there is less there now). Stopping at the Vermont country store in Weston, after picking up donuts at MrsMurphys in Manchester Depot. Oh yeah almost forgot, spending maybe 10 minutes at the DMV office with a "take care" as your leaving. You tell me which one is easier. NOW I need a road trip. Rick
Buy gum it is SUNDAY and you can tell that because there is another FNG asking about buying a car without a ***le which is an every Sunday event. Post #6 sounds like a good one to follow.
that's a nice story. but is there any evidence that an out of state resident can actually obtain a ***le for a car at a VT RMV?
general gow, PLEASE go back and read thoroughly thru the previous comments and clearly understand what has been said. You will realize neither myself or Dragginit93 said anything about getting a ***le for the car from Vermont. What we explained is how to get a car registered, so that you can get a ***le legally in M***achusetts in your name for said auto in question. Before you ask, yes even I have done it twice that way after being educated by fellow street rodders while attending the NSRA Nat's in Burlington, VT.
A New York registration is another option. You may have to find a buddy who resides there and "sell" him the car long enough to do it, though, I don't know if they'll do it for nonresidents. But all it amounts to is the right forms and info, and putting insurance on it for long enough for them to check the records, find nothing, and issue a transferrable registration. The last one I did took 4 weeks, and could have legally been driven while waiting.
Vt is a no ***le state for pre 72 vehicles. you can get a registration and that is valid at your dmv if the people there take the time to check. when I moved from Vt years ago, I took a 57 chevy, 34 ford and 33 chevy to Ca. All were ***led in Ca without issue.
yes, i mistakenly used '***le' instead of registration. i apologize for that. however, i have read extensively on the VT DMV website, and i find no indication that a non-resident of VT can register a car there, unless i am missing something. it just seems too good to be true. why would VT allow for people to have their cars registered there, and pay taxes based on residency there, and not have an address in the state? i love the idea of it. it would be an incredibly easy solution. but, i'm not entirely comfortable with the concept. something seems hinky.
I recently registered a vehicle in Vermont. I'll start with the shortened back story.... I bought an 86 Ford F-350 that was previsously owned by a utility company. The ***le was in the truck and had been eaten up pretty badly by mice. The second owner I bought the truck from had been running farm plates on the truck. Upon purchase he gave me the chewed up but still legible ***le and a bill of sale. CT DMV refused to register the truck as the ***le was still in the Utilliy Company name. I went round and round with them for a month or so. So, I simply downloaded the Vermont DMV paper work. Filled it out. Had the local PD due the vin verification sent a check and the completed paperwork to V. DMV. Two weeks later my plates and reg arrived....... You do not need to be a Vermont resident to register a car nor do you need to go to Vermont if your local law enforcement agency does a VIN check....
Huh!! This started out as a "Do I read yet ANOTHER FNG post about registering a car OR do I poke my finger in my eye???" ....but this VT info is pretty interesting.
general gow, PLEASE read the comments stated by fellow Hamber's and be open to the REALITY of the situation is - - - MONEY, MONEY, MONEY !! No insurance while driving and you get caught = we sue you and take it, and maybe even put you in jail. Registration, Taxes and Insurance = MONEY, MONEY, MONEY ! It is sad, but we all know what comes out on top in this situation, $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ . All those who want to meet for a VERMONT road trip say "I" !!
I am not naive. i understand how the world works. you have said on a couple occasions that i do not understand because i haven't read what you have written. you say that you stated things clearly, and i must not have read it well enough. but you tell stories about stopping off for donuts and registrations miraculously appearing in your hand as you exit the DMV. these aren't really clear instructions on how to register a car in VT. now, matt's post MAKES SENSE to me because he wrote details about how to accomplish it. now i understand how the system works. i believe it to the extent that i know matt personally, and trust what he says. i still stand by my statement that it is something too good to be true, to the extent that someone in an official capacity will catch on soon enough and put a stop to it. but for now, it seems like a good loophole, and i will certainly work on jumping through it to get paperwork for my latest acquisition.
I wouldn't steer ya wrong buddy As a matter of fact I have to go through the process again. I have an 88 Ford E-350 Ambulance converted to a ramp truck that was given to my friend's Dad. The ambulance was out of New Hampshire which does not issue ***les for municipal vehicles. The previous owner ran "dealer" plates. So after a vin verification off to Vermont goes the paperwork and a check. One thing I do think is crazy is that Vermont requires no proof of insurance beyond a signed statement you have it. You would think a copy of your insurance card would be required....
Hey Gow, I can answer that for Matt, yes it is quite easy to have an officer do it. Maybe not on a VT registration app but I know you can get a CT vin verification form on the DMV website. Maine used to be the same way with the easy registrations just send the app and a check, no vin verification needed! Chuck
General Gow, I apologize for leading you astray. My intention was to make light of the situation and say if your going to VT for registration, why not make a nice day out of it and enjoy life and our cars as well. There was an article many years back (10-15) about a man who had 24 cars registered through his house in Vermont when he died, though he did not have a drivers license or a car. The family thought they could collect and sell all those beautiful cars, but the law said NO ! Reason why - the ederly man sold his "registrants" addresses to his 100+ acre farm. 123 Somewhere Road was his house, and being that he was smart enough to have the land broken into (building or camping) lots before the time of Planning & Zoning he sold off 123A, 123B, 123C, 123D, 123E and so forth addresses for an annual sum. Legal registration and annual land ownership for cars, hunting, boating or whatever. The VIN verification is no more than having a police officer come to your house and look at the number on the frame and verifying that is the same one on the ***le or bill of sale. The officer will then call it in to check for stolen or etc and when all is clear gives you a form to take to DMV. Montville Auto in Lisbon, CT will do it for $10 I think it still is.
i would like to know how much it cost 100%matt to register his truck and has he figured out how much it will cost to register the other truck. if you register a vehicle in vt., all you need is a bill of sale if is older than 15 years. if you try to register a 1940 ford that the bill of sale says you paid $500.00 for it isn't going to fly. dmv will pull out there copy of "old car values" and tell you it is worth say $4000.00 and you will pay the use tax on that amount.
It cost me $146.42 to register the F-350. I called DMV on Montpelier and they gave me the cost of registration. I paid 1k for the truck I'm not sure if they used purchase price or blue book value. Blue book value is a bit more than what I paid.
I did not have to use a Vermont address to register my truck. All my paperwork has my CT address listed. It should'nt be an issue for anyone registering. http://dmv.vermont.gov/sites/dmv/files/pdf/DMV-VD119-Vehicle_Reg_Tax_***le_App.pdf http://dmv.vermont.gov/sites/dmv/files/pdf/DMV-VD119i-Registration_App_Instructions.pdf
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