History 64/65 Comets old drag cars lets see pictures

Mark has left the forum. Is the story 100% true? Who knows and like Dale said who cares. It is a bitchin Comet. Plus the guy sold it and got it back. I love those stories. I saw some pictures of the documentation when it was for sale. It is a hi po Comet with a paper trail at a minimum. That puts that car in pretty rare Comet teritory. I know of one other 65 with a build sheet to prove it. I am no expert either but I have owned one 65 Cyclone for 29 years and a second 65 Cyclone for 12 years. Brian

 

Hey Dale,about Daves Beswick Comet,go to page 31 post 607.And I don't blame Mark at all for leaving the forum.Some of you guys really don't make us feel welcome here.Sure the Hi-Po Comets weren't RPO,but they do exist.They were Special Order only through a Lincoln Mercury Dealership.How,when and where the package was added,I don't know.

 

For what it is worth,the guy did have paper work on the Comet.If I remember right there is no Marti reports that far back!I have seen some really strange stuff come out of factories,so who really knows? Were any of you non-believers there?I have been proven wrong more than once after seeing something on a car that EVERYONE says did not come that way,only to see the proof and have expects agree that is was available!If he is gone,that is a shame! ROY.

 

Wow..... I hope we take this as a learning experiance. I'd like to always try to roll out the welcome mat to new Comet owners as often as I can, and try to get them into the fold.

Anyhow--- Mike. I'm sorry for missing that post!! I try to hit about eight degrees . Any more, and the front wheels want to slop over on their sides in a steep turn, much like a dragster. Keep in mind the angle of the leaf spring perches as well. Set it as a total of both, meaning after the springs and axle mounted together and rear tires on, basically how it will drive down the road. I had one guy contact me after he picked up the how-to video, and he had 15 degrees in it, because the back end sat soooo low!!

 

It's pretty obvious Mark has a very nice hi-po 65 Cyclone. The bad thing is that it appears that he's been sold a line of goods by a prior owner that isn't the truth.

I'm glad you guys like storys, but hearing stupid storys at a car show is one thing. When a seller fabricates a story purely to cheat someone and make more profit it just wrong in my book.

 

I dont post much As Ive been busy building a shop. But you are wrong about the factory not building special cars for special people. The owner 0f Pelco a survalance camara company here in fresno got a ford super coupe hand walked thru ford with all kind of crazy ad ons. it was then shipped to the dealer, I worked at, for delivery. were after we made the stuff function per the factorys instruction. So Dont say it cant happen unless you know first hand. I think you acting all high and mighty was wrong, and you may have chased of more than Mark Away from this Forum and thread............JOHN

 

Correct! But where were the Hi-Po Fairlanes assembled?

 

the guy in california mark got the car back from also has a real 64 cyclone hipo comet bought off of ebay and a few hipo fairlanes as well as building a soch engine god help all of that stuff.

 

i have a weird 64 caliente not a hipo but a factory 4 speed toploader car that is painted a orange color only shown in advertising,not offrered on the paint chip charts and is a caliente with the side trim but all cyclone interior.i do not know if it was special ordered or ? and i wonder why some cars got the t-10 and others got the toploader,very confusing times at ford/lincoln mercury with the 5 bolt v-8 and the narrow pattern manual trans.

 

I know,I know,It's a 427 transitor ignition box for distributor?...Oops little late!

 

1965 Hi Po Fairlanes were built on the assembly line. It was an option. I have worked on one on and off for over 20 years. It is not mine. It is a 65 Fairlane 500 bench seat 4 speed car. The VIN is stamped on the block right above the pan rail. I put the engine in the car. The VIN on the car is a K code. The Fairlane club has had some history on Hi Po Fairlanes as they are pretty rare cars. The DSO is 89. Transportation Services.

I hope an "expert" does not say that they do not exist either?

I thought the idea of this thread is to share enthusiasm and information for 64 and 65 Comets? I am a still a newbie here but I read this thread everyday really appreciate the knowledge base here. Now we have one less pretty cool 65 Comet to share with. Brian

 

Dennis K. answered in the T-bolt thread, and said the following in part:


"Although it's been generally accepted that all 1965 B/FX Comets were 5J27A cars built at LA and completed at Stroppes. In theory, its possible that another assembly plant could of built one. The BFX car was pretty much a bolt together package and did not require any special modifications as required on the Type I A/FX 427 65 Comet. In addition to the six digit DSO number, I would also expect a Special Equipment Parts List would of been provided with the vehicle, the broadcast sheet might also serve as further evidence."

Hopefully Mark comes back, I didn't even get a chance to see any of his posts.

 

I disagree with your statements. Ford Motor Co salaried employees until 1963 could directly purchase company "B Lot" vehicles without having to have the unit delivered or sold thru a dealer. In 1963, they began going thru dealers and that had more to do with the dealer getting paid for new car prep, FDAF (advertising fund), and an opportunity to sell dealer installed options.

Re factory $1.00 drag cars. Dealers were NOT involved in the sale process. The sale was between Ford Motor Co and the individual. There was a contract, payment was credited to a particular account, and upon payment Ford issued a Manufacturers Statement of Origin to the individual that could be taken to their respective Secretary of State or DMV to have a registration or title issued, if their particular state issued them. See attachment.

Regards,
Dennis

 

I think some of you be confused. Nobody said hi-po cars were never built. Nobody said that B/FX cars were never built. Nobody said cars couldn't be special ordered with available options. Mark obvisouly has a very nice car and seems like a really nice guy.

This whole "controversy" as Analog Dog put it was started with Mark claiming his hi-po Cyclone was built on the assembly line with B/FX parts....yet wasn't a B/FX car. More of a street B/FX car as he put it. I think he even said it had single exhaust.

He claims the man who supplied the plant with their oil had so much pull with Ford that he ordered this car be built this way on the assembly line.

B/FX cars were race cars completed off site by Stroppe and as far as I can see, Ford would not have installed parts such as a B/FX hood on the assembly line.

 

64cyclOne and other nay sayers, I'm not sayin your wrong but the whole point of these forums are people helping people. Although we want to be historically correct, to what cost? Driving decent people and nice cars away seems counter productive. Let's just put this whole debate to bed, I'm sorry you feel the need to be right all the time but sometimes it's ok to let the other guy have one... Let's get this thread back on track with productive discussions and photographs of great looking comets

 

Thanks Dale

As it sits right now (level, no engine, trans or front clip) I have 10.7 degrees. I thought that might be a little much & I still want a little "nose up" attitude when I'm done. Thanks again for a solid number to shoot for.
Mike

 

Are any of you guys going to this , I'm thinking about it.

 

Getting a little stir crazy with all the snow, projects on the back burner and no money.

Anyone getting close on some new Race Comet projects?

Old pic from the ford expo 04 , This one was sold back then, hadnt seen it since.

 

Same event, I think this guy worked for Crites

 

Same event Nice

 

Eddie and I just missed on this one two days ago. Nice 65 404 wagon bucket seat 4 speed on the floor 302 , factory tri power.

Perfect shop vehicle.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd...48&item=280802089643&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT





Damn it right here 10 miles away and everything.

 

04 was the last time we went to Columbus...I have pics of the blue Comet too somewhere.

Heres a couple from the NHRA reunion 09

 

great pictures glad to see back to posting good items and not bashing cars

 

Whats the latest on Kurt Neighbors Yellow Comet?

 

this was Dave Lyalls AFX car this is a picture of the car in the eighties. AFX Dave had a chance to buy the car for $5000.00 but he told me it was to expensive.

 

Is this the Tom Coward car someone mentioned the other day?

 

I have spent a little shop time working on my Comet. I lost some weight by removing my old big brass 4 row radiator and installing a nice lightweight aluminum one. Also got rid of the cast iron water pump for aluminum also. I should have weighed old versus new.

Next up is some front suspension work to help the camber change and bump steer. I bought a Pro Motorsports bump steer kit and Opentracker lower control arm bearings and adjusment kit. The Cleveland was installed long before kits were available. I don't think my upper control arms are mounted quite correctly?

We will see. This picture is a tic after the one on my avatar. Hard to see but Camber is very negative. Brian

 

It's a shame that nobody makes a lengthened spindle to help with that problem. Kens set looks great.

 

I would buy this fellow hambers Comet in a heart beat if i was not in the middle of my falcon racecar

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=660558

 

Dale,

You said there is more left in the Rocket. What is your next thing on your list to do and test? Brian