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  1. jimi'shemi291
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    " .... Though these days there are some great avenues for Veterans to access assistance
    in these areas. As much as it's kinda hard to admit it, I have recently started to see a
    Psych, care of Vets Affairs." :eek:

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    Hey, Doc, you didn't mention being in a live production of "Rocky Horror Picture Show," did you? :eek: If so, it's a padded cell for ya, mate! :D

    No, back to SERIOUSLY now. I salute you for the courage to mention it on the HAMB. And I think all regs join me in saluting you and ALL soldiers, airmen, sailors, marines, special forces, surgeons, nurses and the army of support and tech it takes to keep a modern fighting force in the field and 100-percent at the ready. :cool: But constantly living on the razor's edge between exhaustion, boredom, homesickness, etc., on the one hand, and staying pumped and frosty for battle on the other DOES carry a ton of stress most civilians can never know. It seems that, more and more, clinical research is proving that Post-Traumatic Stress is for real and for many -- maybe even most -- ex-military personnel, stepping up and dealing with it is the first, brave step toward beating this hidden, insidious syndrome that quietly preys on the mind and body.

    Two separate guys I knew who fought in 'Nam told (very ashamedly) of waking up in a sweat from a combat nightmare and thinking the wife beside him was Charlie. Stress like that isn't something that goes away by toughing it out, clamming up and just "living with it." Charlie wasn't the powerful demon that caused these two GOOD guys to pummel their wives as though they'd found themselves in a life-death hand-to-hand in an all-too-real dream. Both of those guys got help and support. Both indicated that accepting the challenge was one of the toughest things they'd ever done. One of the bravest, too, I'd say. ;) I thank God that understanding of "shell shock" has made leaps and bounds in the psychiatric community. Now, if government would just support actual care with sufficient funding and programmatic priority!

    And as Ron and you both indicated, war is war, regardless of whether it's at Rorkes Drift, Shiloh, Gettysburg, Belleau Wood, Bataan, Stalingrad, Normandy, Anzio, Chosin Reservoir, the Ia Drang Valley, Heartbreak Ridge or a thousand other places. Some guys get medals for physical wounds. But nobody comes back from mortal combat completely unscathed.

    Thanks, Doc. And THANKS to ALL veterans!
     
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    I should have caught that. Just used the information on the website
     
  4. outlaw256
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    jimishemi, thanks for that post.its very well put.i had a good freind that came back from nam. he was a good guy but was crazy as hell. and it all came from war.he finally killed himself because we couldnt and the government wouldnt help him.,now guys put up some more pics for me.lol
     
  5. mart3406
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    from Canada

    And never ones to miss out on a
    great advance in the never-ending
    pursuit for increased profits and
    world auto-market domination, the
    Koreans and Chinese are now, almost
    100 years later, doing that exact same
    thing too - shocking the auto-industry
    in the rest of the world by paying
    their autoworkers $5 a day too!. :eek::(
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    Mart3406 ("who generally
    thinks all forms of racing
    are cool...except for 'the
    race to the bottom!'
    ":( )
     
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  6. ... made me look! I have that same picture hanging on my 'puter room wall, salvaged out of my gramps possesions when he died. I remember it hanging over the TV, me and him watching Palladin as he was packing his pipe with Granger tobacco.... warm memories!
     
  7. jimi'shemi291
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    Sam! Honest to Gosh, WHERE but this HAMB thread can people have the opportunity, AND relevant context, to pass on a GREAT memory of family life??? Thanks for sharing that, man. :)

    You stimulated my own memories of my own grandpa's briar, PLUS my uncle and dad "rollin' their own" cigs out of Bugler.:p My dad could even drive his car and roll 'em one-handed! Shit! :cool: I thought my dad was a real man -- and he was, still is. My uncle even bought a little hand-operated rolling machine and turned out perfect unfiltered cigarettes (amazingly, today there's one that has a filtered setup!;)). Watching all this as a kid, you'd think I would have smoked like a steam locomotive pulling a grade, wouldn't you? :rolleyes: In fact, I never took up smoking. (But, knowing how to roll amazed my college buddies! :D They'd come get me to roll their doobies, even though I didn't smoke the shit. LOL!)
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    Thanks to FlickR. Bugler never changed their package art, far as I know!
     
  8. jimi'shemi291
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    Well, to be honest, ONCE I did . . . but I didn't inhale! :D
     
  9. jimi'shemi291
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    Hey, Roadkill! Today, we'd call this a muscle car or factory hotrod! :cool: I'll bet
    Errol paid for it with checks from his first U.S. hit, "Captain Blood," 1935.

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    Auburn SC 852 Series
    $2,245 ($36,600 in 2012 dollars)

    3,700 lbs., 127-inch wb.

    7/1 comp. ratio, 150 hp @ 4,000 rpms
    (35 more hp than the un-supercharged model 852 Series models)
    280-CID Lycoming straight eight w. centrifugal supercharger
    five main bearings, duplex downdraft Stromberg carb

    3 fwd. gears, 10-inch clutch, dual-ratio diff. (4.3 & 3.23)
    Dual Rear Axle Ratio 4.3 - 3.23

    Miscellaneous: Left-over '36s were titled as '37s.
    Ab Jenkins certified these good for at least 100 mph.
    Status: Full Classic Automobile
     
  10. Personally I feel that those that cannot cherish memories also cannot cherish life .. I can close my eyes and put my mind back 50 years! LOL

    The advantages of cigarette rolling with one hand are multi-fold ... and my gramps also taught me. He was a wagoneer (hi-binder) on the front in WW1 with a team of mules. Ammunition to the front on the morning trip and casualties on the return trip to the rear. The wagon trails were pretty thin and the convoys were multi-wagons long. You couldnt stop to roll a fattie PLUS you had to hold the reins in one hand .... leaving the other hand free to roll. That is the way he explained it to me.

    During the day he smoked hand rolled bull durham cigarettes, leaving the pipe-smoking for his "quiet time" in the evening.

    I find family history interesting ... I have also obtained a "blow-by-blow" published accounting of his time in France during WW1 ... fascinating.
     
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    Gas up time, ME and MD.
     
  12. 11E
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    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/08/local/me-then8

    Exactly so... "Santa Anita racetrack played a role in WWII internment The extensive grounds were used as the nation's largest assembly center to house about 19,000 Japanese Americans before they were relocated to camps. November 08, 2009|Alison Bell A plaque near the entrance on the sprawling grounds of the Santa Anita racetrack is the sole reminder of the track's place in World War II history as the nation's largest assembly center for Japanese Americans on their way to internment camps. Although the prestigious Breeders' Cup World Championships unfolded Friday and Saturday at the landmark racetrack, 67 years ago a darker chapter unfolded at the site. The horses were moved out, the track was shut down and the park's extensive grounds provided the massive space needed by the War Department to temporarily house thousands of people of Japanese decent.'

     
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    I thin Errol Flynn could have learned something from Joan Crawford,

    She is stylin in the wide whites.
     
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  16. jimi'shemi291
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    StarWalker, you must have missed class (checking in on this thread) for a few days. Just my opinion, but I think you might want to catch up before posting unnecessarily on something that has just been very heavily covered. No disrespect meant. -- Jimi'sHemi291
     
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    Well said. There are those who feel that fishing is a waste of time, for example, when you could be doing "productive" things. They don't see the value of sitting and fishing with an elderly relative, nor -- God forbid! -- teaching a little kid how to fish. They miss the whole point human interaction and -- as you allude to -- the REAL enjoyment of life. :) You work to live. If you live to WORK, then I feel sorry for you.

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    One of the hardest-working guys I ever knew just up and retired inside of a month. He explained, "I never read a grave stone that said, 'Gee, wish I'd have spent MORE time at the office.'":eek:

    Last time I saw him, he was spending his every day with his dear wife who was a cancer survivor. BTW, he'd been a true hotrodder as a kid in the late-'40s and early '50s! :cool: He'd been a real hell-raiser, before he found a career and put in a long working life. Could he tell stories!!!;)
     
  18. jimi'shemi291
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    Ah, hell, MY bad, too. I was jumping on someone (a usual good poster) for being behind when I myself was off looking for father-son pix. Maybe StarWalker, then I as well, pulled the trigger too fast! God, forgive us! LOL:eek::p:D

    But, Moe, you're right, WIDES WHITES would have been killer on Errol Flynn's Auburn!
     
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    Yeah, my grandsons were all in last week-end, so I didn't hit the thread. I deleted that comment about the Japanese intern camps when I realized it was a repeat.
     
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    No problem. I replied, then thought, "oh crap, I'll bet it has been answered." Then, "Oh well, when I get to my reply, I'll just delete it."
     
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    From the National Library of Australia, VJ Day, 1945.
     
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    from . .

    Ahhh, so many captions come to mind, none of which I care to print here:rolleyes:


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  23. Check out the plumbing ...... on the drain oil rig (what you think I meant?)!
     
  24. mart3406
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    :DALTERNATE CAPTION - "Bill
    wasn't concerned. 'Life is still good',
    he thought. Sure....his well-paying
    manufacturing job of 20-plus years
    had been outsourced to China, he'd
    lost all of his investments and life
    savings in a Ponzi scheme and his
    house had been repossessed by a
    bunch of heartless, unscrupulous
    banksters. But he still had Mary
    and the boy - and his cool '50 Nash
    'fastback sedan', with the seats that
    fold down into a bed - and he could
    still even access the H.A.M.B, albeit
    now, via a computer at the public
    library! But best of all though, all of
    the cool camping gear he'd accumulated
    over the years, but had never really had
    time to use before, was finally going
    to get put to good use...everyday
    now, in fact! 'Yes', Bill mused - 'Life is
    still good!
    ':eek::eek::D

    Mart3406
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    P.S. Bill was an idiot.:eek::D
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    After several years of trying the civilian side of the mental health community I finally turned to the VA - That was in 2003 - So far I've whittled my list of people about in half and I have given up my blankly and the corner of the den.
    Most of the civilian shrinkologists have the tendency to make faces and draw back from you when you discuss your problems.
     
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  27. jimi'shemi291
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    Now THAT is bullshit. We've been fighting two wars at once, so we (in the U.S.) need to give higher priority to veterans' post-service needs. Maybe if those shrinks had to go out and walk patrols on roads that may have been planted with IEDs the night before, maybe THEY would understand what stress is about in the modern wars.:cool:

    We ought to be doing better since 2003, Dick. Now that eight years have passed, please try again.:eek: Doc Watson (Australia, of course) is trying for the first time. So, as HE said, we'll SEE how this goes.:rolleyes: Maybe Ryan Cochran wouldn't mind if rodder/custom vets start up a (what the hell they are called?) HAMB social group, so vets (guys and girls) could touch bases in general, plus talk about current experiences with their so-called providers.

    I guess, for me, this ties in to an idea Pork&Beaner & I have kicked around about a SAFETY-specific thread (maybe social group?). Too many guys have been seriously injured (no details here) when, maybe, touching bases with other HAMBers RE proper jacks, jack stands, paint & reducer issues, on and on.

    Anyway,:) lemme know your thoughts (PM, if ya wish), and I'd be happy to at least make a pitch to Ryan. Doc, if you stop by on this thread, would you (as a former medic, especially) be willing to support such a HAMB veterans' "social group"?
     
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  29. empire
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    Well said Jimi, Safety and Support should always be first.
     
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