Hot Rods I think I got it, check the proportions now.

I had the body bolted in the stock location originally but there must be a big difference between 28-29 and 30-31 frames. Its a very early 28 frame and I didn't know they weren't interchangable with the later ones. I ended up moving the body back two inches from the stock body mount holes. I just kept moving it till the rear wheel was centered and I think it looks pretty good now. I also moved the main leaf to the top of the stack to lower it another inch in back. Probably can't run it that way but it gives me an idea of what I need if I get a new spring.

I tipped the windshield up a little more as well. I'm going to have to extend the hood a little and now I'm not sure if I will run hood sides or not? I'll figure it out later but I think its definitely moving in the right direction.

 

i like the way it sits good job , you know whats weird look at that wear mark in the drivers side door it sort of resembles einsteins face lol

 

Looks right to me, Jay and silent Bob seem to like it.

 

HAHA! I've had this thing for five years and I never noticed that.

 

I see it, looks more like Mark Twain to me though. Oh yeah, the car looks good too.

 

that looks right now

 

the car looks much better now dude...i spent quite a while looking at your original thread about it.....Love the side aprons.

 

It looks great Scott.

 

Looks great

But the roof looks askew ....

 

I hate to be "that guy", and it might just be your camera, but it still looks a little short in the hood to me. Looks loads better than before, so don't get me wrong, but still just a bit short in that area. I have two '30 '31 hoods around the ranch here, and both measure in at 30 1/2" throught the center hinge. Is that what you come up with?

Something else to be aware of is that the only difference that I know of with Model "A" frames other than a few bolt holes is that the radiator mount pads on the '28 '29 front cross member are about 3/16" higher than the same on a '30 '31 cross member. It doesn't sound like much but it make ahuge difference when it comes time to mount your grill and shell and hood.

I have messed with these cars since I was akid in the late seventies and never knew that until a couple of years ago when I slid a perfect '28 frame under my '30 coupe body...

 

looks better now.

 

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I just measured from the lip by the cowl band to the lip on the grille shell and its 33". The hood that came with the car is 31.5". The radiator is mounted in the stock holes and the rear tire is now centered so I think its pretty much where it should be. I knew about the front cross member deal and swapped in a 30-31 to this 1928 ch***is. I think it had something to do with the 28-29 grille shell being a bit shorter than the 30-31. Other than that I ***umed any old Model A frame under a Model A would work. Guess not

 

Love it, looks really good now.
BUT......are you using a fish eye/wide angle lens? In the pic it looks like the cowl is sitting higher than it should, looks like the body is on a downward slope to the rear if you look at the plane the ch***is is on.

 

It's the lens on my iPhone 4S, whatever that is that's what I'm using. I think it's because I'm only standing back about 10-12 feet. That might be what's messing with you. The subrails are sitting flat on the frame all the way around. Although I did have to hack it up in back pretty good to accommodate the frame height step in the rear.

 

It looks good Scott, It would look a lot better in my garage with my flathead in it. I never thought I'd say it but the look with the lower aprons on it is growing on me.

 

Who told you that the model A frames were diffren't in length from 28-31??.....As whoever said that needs to put down the crack pipe!!....there are very little diffrences in model A frames, and none of them effect a build much when it comes to hotrodding them. Anyhow, It looks pretty good (too me anyhow) the way it is sitting now, I am going to catch hell for this remark, But 30-31 roadsters look better than 32's (IMO) I would lose the splash apron, but that is just me.

 

Sorry, beg to differ, and no crack pipe around here, but there is a difference in the front crossmembers between the two year groups. I have been playing with this **** for the better part of 35 years and until a couple of years ago I didn't know either. Now I have dealt with it ywice since then. On '28 '29 front crossmembers, the pads that the radiator bolts down to are stamped just about 3/16" higher than they are on '30 '31 cross members. doesn't sound like much, but when you have a finicky customer that wants his front sheetmetal to line up perfectly on his '30, and you find it was pieced together on a '28 or '29 frame, then you can call me about crack smoking and such. I'll be gentle, I promise. There are also a bunch of really small diferences between the early '28 "AR" series frames and the later stuff too.

 

Nobody said the length of the ch***is was different. Its the mounting hole location. In fact if you look really closely you'll see a black speck on top of the frame in front of the firewall in my picture. That's the factory mounting hole for the front body mounts. I thought a 30-31 body would bolt onto a 28-29 ch***is with no modification but that's not the case. That's what I meant by not being able to throw any old Model A frame under an A regardless of the year.

 

Scott,... you nailed the look !


Now, quit goofing off on the computer and get back in the garage !,.....


Good Job !

 

HaH! Don't see it. I do, however, see Nixon.

 

Still dont like the side aprons ,But you nailed the proportions,But If you like them thats ok,Its your car,,,,

 

I hate to throw water on this but if you are running fenders you will need to put the body back in the factory position. The rear fenders are not centered on the body. The front of the fenders roll backwards at the front thus moving the center of the wheel opening backwards.

 

Einstein.

 

No fenders on this one. Besides the body being in a different spot, the aprons are bobbed a few inches.

 

"Snoochie boochies!". Looks rad with the aprons. Me likey.

 

Love the splash aprons. Traditional as ****!! BTW Jay and silent Bob rule nice poster.

 

I am aware of the front crossmembers being diffren't, I am also aware of all the other diffren't little things on a model A frame, (early 28 to late 31)As I have built more model A's than I can count. (even if I take off my shoes..LOL) front body holes are in the same place on a 28-29 frame as 30-31....I have swapped them back and forth many times. as far as body mounting holes go there are only 2 frames that were diffren't and that would be (pickup which has 2 extra holes) and the (briggs 4dr bodys and vickys) which had the cowl post brackets moved back a little, either way, the front 2 body bolt holes are in the same place on all year model A's....Maybe you have a weird frame (like the guy on your door But in a good way....LOL)...Anyhow i am not trying to pick a tick, the car looks cool as hell, chop the windshield about 2 inches and put a killer flathead in it and drive the wheels off of it.

 

No worries man, for all I know this is a truck frame. I got it from a guy here in Michigan that had acres of Model A stuff. He had a pile of 5-6 frames in one spot and I just grabbed the nicest one. Its got a 5****X serial number so its fairly early. All I know is when I lined up the front two holes in the cowl with the corresponding holes in the ch***is, the hood fit but the rest of the body was too far foreward. The holes for the rear subrails didn't line up either. I like it where its at and I think that's where its staying. Got a hot flathead waiting to be rebuilt as we speak, its gonna be a blast

 

roadster looks great where it is. that frame is weird, could the body sub rails have been put in wrong? as far as the hamb roarshak [sp?] test it looks like buckwheat to me.

 

I am thinking the problem is with the body. Keep your frame it's fine and I'll be over soon to get that pesky wrongly ***embled body . Lippy (looks good)