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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by oldrelics, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. oldrelics
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    lets say you find an F1 cab and a 1940 Merc front end....do you think they would mate up fairly well? This could be an interesting project.

    PS-I borrowed the pics from other hamb posts...
     

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  2. i say it could work...you might need to utilze some metal skills. you have the vision go ahead and try it.
     
  3. wbrw32
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    Why waste a Merc front clip on a such a useless project??
    Another Fuc#ed up Rat rod???
     
  4. oldrelics
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    No vision, huh.....
     
  5. How good are your sheet metal fabricating skills?
     
  6. Shaggy
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    Personally i'd say the cab'd need some serious sectioning, chopping, and narrowing to get it to look right, but i'd say if your skills and vision are good, go for it, one of my dream rigs is still a 36 ford with a '39 nose....
     
  7. Dale Fairfax
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    X2. 40 Merc stuff is too scarce to waste on such a concept.


     
  8. striper
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    Yeah, go for it. **** the restorers. Build a nice Merc truck.
     
  9. xderelict
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    You'd need the firewall to help.
     
  10. How good are you with metal finishing? If your not sure it can be done your skills are probably not up to the job. Were I to consider the project first I'd measure the firewall width. You'll most likley half to split the hood front to back and what about the crown in the cowell? Now you have the first piece of information. Frame will need to be shortened and the tires are not going to fall in the center of wheel openings. Now What? Now you managed to get that nice Merc front end hanging on the Cab. So step back 20 feet and look at what you have. You just made those rear fenders look out of place. What now?
    When you see a 40 Merc do you say WoW? Do you know why? They are round everywhere, that's why they look so good. Now you have Round front fenders and almost Flat rear fenders and a strait bed rail top and and a few other things I personally would not care for. For me it's about the total picture not weather or not I can make it fit. It has to look good when done or you just have another P.O.S. I'd think long and hare before I did that to the Truck.
    To each there own but,,,,,?
    The Wizzard
     
  11. nutajunka
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    I don't know about your project, but I put a willys nose on a 46 chevy pickup. Never completely finished it before I sold it...:(
     

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  12. How far did that door open? The Wizzard
     
  13. nutajunka
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    Just enough to get in. Was planning on cutting the doors like a willys and welding the corner back to the cab. It was an old race weight willys flip front.
     
  14. Mr48chev
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    If you don't have either at the moment that nose would look a lot better on a 39/41 Truck cab and probably be a lot easier to put on. The pointier noise needs the V windshield to keep the flow going rather than the flat windshield.
     
  15. 50flathead
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    That F-1 cab is a lot wider than the merc fender opening. Anything can be made to fit but those lines won't flow too well together.
     
  16. Dale Fairfax
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    Apparently your educaton in the Hot Rod/Custom idiom doesn't comprehend all the fine, CL***IC customs based on'39/'40 Mercs. Nobody said a word about restorers.

     
  17. sunbeam
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    I rember seeing a 46 pu with a 38 front in a magazine it looked good but a 46 is narrower.
     
  18. oldrelics
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    I am trying to get ideas to a prosective buyer of my merc clip. Of course a ton of measuring and a mockup is in order to see if its a feasable option. Well I know the 40 Merc is wider than a 40 ford and I know that an F1 is wider than a 40, It seems possible.
     
  19. It all depends on your skill level. But it seems as if youd have to do some serious sectioning, fabricating and a bit of a chop for it to look in proper proportion.
     
  20. silversink
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    Does anthing ever please you? he was asking a question not doing a build thread
     
  21. yetiskustoms
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    anythings possible. i think we all no how to improvise here. if you have the stuff laying around and the skills, why not. thats hot rodding
     
  22. wbrw32
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    Got excellant vision,,just dont like nightmares..
     
  23. wbrw32
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    Yes Everything pertaining to "Traditional Hot rods" please me..not something that is really not HAMB worthy..my 2
    cents is that Ryan is too forgiving and alllows all this ****..to dilute his intention on a Traditional board..
     
  24. silversink
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    I'm not quite as old as you but I remember mixing and matching parts on cars and trucks. 1959 is when I built my first rod( 1934 3 window F) and I still have it, it has mixed bunch of parts just the way it was built from a wrecking yard in 59 , maybe traditional is way before my time besides it was jus a QUESTION NOT A BUILD and deserves an honest answer not a toung lashing unless thats traditional responce.
     
  25. SuRfAcE_RuSt
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    Stop flaming, if u don't like it go to the next thread
     
  26. Blackie
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    My opinion is that the year spread is too far apart. What I mean is usually customizers would use a earlier main body and add newer bits to them. Putting something from an earlier era on a car seems to be going backwards. I worked on a project that mated a '36 Ford car grille/hood to a '38/'39 Ford pickup. I really liked how it worked but always thought it seemed to go backwards like I mentioned. I think the truck/car thing can handle it a bit as the pickups always seemed to trail the cars a bit style wise. I also question how the front fenders would work visually with the rear f-1 fenders. I really think an earlier era Ford pickup would be a better choice from a design perspective. Not saying you shouldn't go for it, but not my first choice of pickup.

    eB
     
  27. silversink
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    I also think it would look a little off on the styling if left alone but a little atleration and changing it would fit. If thats what you want go for it. I have Pontiac tail lights, 1935 Lafayette bucketseats, Y block ford 312, and a coumbia 2speed rearend in my 34 along with 40 ford bumpers, other than that its all stock except for changes---oh- did I mention the 41 frount end?
     
  28. EnglishBob
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    Maybe instead of answering a thread you have no real interest in you should be talking to Ryan about your 'vision'.
    I say go for it, it will be the owners/builders choice and their car.
     
  29. nukeman
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  30. sololobo
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    I admire your thinking outside the box. I know the 39 Merc is a rare bird and that sets of some alarms. I personally don't think its a good body flow and kind of a big span in years/styles. Good luck with what ever you do. ~sololobo~
     

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