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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bad Bob, May 24, 2012.

  1. Bad Bob
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    Anybody have some pic's or info on the Vita Orr '32?
     
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  2. lothiandon1940
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    I think that was Veda. Just sayin'
     
  3. millersgarage
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  4. lothiandon1940
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    Thanks for linking up those pics Jimmy B. Veda just had to be one very cool lady and certainly an inspiration to many women who have followed over the years.
     
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    In a snow storm in white out conditions...
     
  6. wbrw32
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    I'll try again to post an old photo of Veda and her roadster
     

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  7. Dan Timberlake
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    An outstretched arm rests on the HOOD?

    Either those folks are on the short side, or old lake cars sat like a lifted truck. No wonder chopping and channeling were required
     
  8. RussTee
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    Did Veda ever have anything to do with those hubcaps sold with her name on them for wire wheels?
     
  9. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Karl Orr,her husband made a few sets the story goes when he had his speed shop.

    At one time someone was producing them at an extremely high price.

    I was looking for and had advertised that I was looking for one for my granddaughter Veda to hang on the wall,,I received a E-mail from Steve Sellers,,Sellers Equipped that he was going to start reproducing them and he would let me know when they were reproduced,

    I got a E-mail a few years later and he wanted my address,,,He sent me one and wouldn't take any payment,,,what a nice guy! HRP

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  10. lothiandon1940
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    It doesn't get any better than that, HRP.
     
  11. RussTee
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    Thanks for the heads up I looked at some Don Orosco at Monterey Speed and Sport was making but at $825us plus $25nz to change currency plus postage and packageing it is a bit expensive.
     
  12. Cyclone Kevin
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    The Veda Orr car I'm told was her husbands Karl's then hers, then after the went CRA racing, sold and ended up being Elmo Gillette's old 32 that Jim Lattin has had for several years. It definitely has some scars but is a still a pretty sweet 32. This was told to me by J. Lattin a few years back.

    BTW, I have never seen those caps on her car in any photo, does anybody have any?
     
  13. hotrd32
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    Found these on Hemmings site........haven't seen them before

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    Few more........
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  15. Bad Bob
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    The reason I ask is,Tim Sutton was shooting this Roadster at El Mirage last weekend and the guy told me it was the original car! Everything on the car is original except the dash cause it was too far gone to restore.
    My truck wasn't intended to be in the shoot. I backed up to the car so he could stand in the back for some shots.
    The caps on the car are the same ones in the shot in front of the Speed Shop,BTW.
    Here's a pic Tim sent me...
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  16. lothiandon1940
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    Love that view of the roadster, and hey your truck looks pretty damn kool as well.....Don.
     
  17. hotroddon
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    If that is the car that was displayed at the GNRS for the significant 75 display in 2007, there is a lot of controversy over it. People had been looking for the original car for many, many years. Interestingly this car popped up a month before the show.
    Some of the issues with it are: It has a cowl vent (the Veda car was filled in 1938), it also has door handles and a trunk handle which were also shaved. The hood louvers are definitely incorrect. The grille shell has been filled, not on the original. The taillights were the right ones, but in the wrong place. AND the frame was an aftermarket piece.
    So you can see why many folks doubt the authenticity of the car ~ you can decide for yourself. What's the real story? i don't know, but there certainly are questions
     
  18. Bad Bob
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    Now,you see why I asked about it. The pic's I took don't resemble the car that I see in these photos. I wanted to see some pic's of the real car so I could investigate. I noticed many of the same things you mentioned.
    Also noticed the frame horns were removed on the original car. Don't think you would re-install horns if you were restoring this car...No snaps for the toneau cover either.
     
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  19. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Remember guys,when this car sold nobody thought that in years to come it would be considered as a significant milestone or preserving it in it's current state.

    Like hundreds of other cars of that period the new owners made changes just like today,,it may be part of the original car or not but there is no doubt that the car looks great! HRP
     
  20. hotroddon
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    True, but when they sold that car it is fairly well do***ented that it became a circle track racer ....... And you know the life those cars led in that era. :eek:
     
  21. bubba67
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    I heard that it was supposedly the original Veda body, not the original ch***is, which would explain the frame horns. But the cowl vent, tonneau snaps, etc, I can't explain.
     
  22. plymouth1952
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    what a GREAT story and what a lovly looking woman. the first lady of hot rodding.
     
  23. lothiandon1940
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    Little known tidbit...........Her real name was apparently Frieda. A younger brother had difficulty pronouncing her name as a toddler and it came out "Veda". It stuck and she was known as Veda for most of her life.
     
  24. billsill45
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    Does anyone know where Karl & Veda Orr's speed shop was located in Los Angeles? They were well-known pioneers of the early SoCal racing scene and a number of pictures of them, their cars and their shop exist but I've never seen any information on their location.
     

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  25. hotroddon
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    The original was 11140 Washington Place, in Culver City. They then moved it to Sierra Highway – between Soledad Canyon Road and Sand Canyon Road – in Mint Canyon, California.
    After they divorced Karl closed it and married a younger Blonde woman (or was she a red head).Then later in life Karl and Veda got back together, remarried, and lived out theirs lives in San Diego
     
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  27. Cyclone Kevin
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    Wow,
    Never heard the story about the divorce before, How strange:confused:. But many people realize that they had it right at one point and get back on track. What great people, My Grandfather, Eddie Balanger knew them when he was building sprinters in the Culver City Speedway days.
    What a time to have been participating in Hot Rodding!
     
  28. Neat thread. I've had a crush on Veda for years. There's more history here than I knew of though. Thanks for the posts.
     
  29. FlynBrian
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    Awesome thread! Learned some history I didn't know about. Cool pics.
     

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