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Dustless paint removal

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by VoodooTwin, May 28, 2012.

  1. VoodooTwin
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    Saw this on the tube today, thought it was kinda cool. I have no business interest in this, just posting it to see if anyone has tried it? Another alternative to sand/soda blasting, apparently. If this was posted somewhere already, I apologize in advance. Here's their vid:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ7CFGIP4uk
     
  2. 34toddster
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    Worth looking into, what was the liquid that they poured in the tank with a measuring cup? Thanks for the thread!
     
  3. chaddilac
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    So it's water and sand.... yep it's dustless!
     
  4. redlinetoys
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    Very interesting, though it does look like that car had been painted specially to be stripped.

    Looked like a coat or two of red over bare metal. No acid etch prime or surfacer under there.

    Not taking anything away from the process, but I would have liked to have seen it stripping away multiple layers of primer, basecoats and clearcoats.

    Will be checking this out further though. Thanks for posting.
     
  5. redlinetoys
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    Just went to the website. Curious what the cost of the smaller DB150 unit is...
     
  6. 55Hydramatic
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    Yea thats very interesting. Wouldnt the blasting media screw up the windows if you hit it though?? I didnt see them put anything over them.
     
  7. 34toddster
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    Just like the pot that will do sand, bead ,soda etc. That isn't the real cost, it's that 185 CFM diesel compressor that's a **** load of cash, even used.
     
  8. ss34coupe
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    This looks like something worth checking out. I went to the website and could not see a price posted anywhere. Anybody have an idea what the cost of these units are?
     
  9. 51poncho
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    Saw this stuff on the show my cl***ic car this weekend.
    Its ground up gl*** bottles that they are using. Looks pretty cool.
     
  10. chaddilac
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    And I bet it'd drain that tank pretty stinkin' quick!!!!
     
  11. 60galaxieJJ
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    The whole time I was thinking that Cadillac didn't need to be stripped.
    Looks like sandblasting with water added.
     
  12. MEDDLER1
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    The compressor is about 100 bux a day from most rental yards sometimes a little cheaper if they know ya and you rent it more than once. Like others have said though it was a simple base coat they used for the demo I wonder how much material goes into an older paint job with a few coats of paint left on it.
     
  13. Pimpin37zephyr
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    I just hate when a company won't list their price so they can get your info first .
    Must be free according to their math.
     
  14. slammed
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    Some very good questions here. Lets hope they see them and answer.
     
  15. BISHOP
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    That DB150 unit looks like something I would be interested in. 30-150 psi.

    Definitely something to look into. Im going to call them tomorrow and let yall in on the details.
     
  16. snaptwo
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    I've used something similar, siphon tube in a bucket of sand with a Hotsy diesel fired burner pressure washer, about 1500 lbs. at the nozzle at 212 degrees.It was a special injector nozzle that one would hook up to a hot/cold pressure washer. It worked great however the GPM of the washer limits its removal rate ,it also went thru many ceramic blast nozzles.
     
  17. nexxussian
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    I've seen the pressure washer adapter, hooks on like a different nozzle.

    Haven't tried it, just seen it in he local industrial supply house.
     
  18. nexxussian
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    Oh, about the extra stuff they add, since they say it protects the metal for a few days it is likely an etchant, judging from the color and how it pours, I'm guessing vinegar.
     
  19. FlynBrian
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    Did a little searching on the net, looks like that DB150 is around $4600 :eek:
    I think I will just deal with the dust and sand, I like the way it squishes between my toes.:D
     
  20. Fortunateson
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    Just saw this on "Cl***ic Car" yesterday. Yeah, the youtube demo car looks like it had one layer of cheap top coat. Nice observation. On "Cl***ic Car" they mentioned something about soda blasting and ill affects on adhesion of primer/top coats. Has anyone heard of this?
     
  21. cryobug
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    I have the pressure washer sand blaster system and I have been very pleased with it. It it is still messy and when your done you still need to dry blast the flash rust off. The fastest and best way I have found to strip paint is the large crud busters on my buffer. Something like this; http://www.amazon.com/Poly-X-Paint-Rust-Removal-Stripping/dp/B005QP3QLO?tag=vglnk-c299-20

     
  22. Roger Walling
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    I did "sand blasting" with "gl*** beads" once.

    The salesman showed that the beads were not sharp and could not cut you.
    That was before I used them. When I finished, my arms were all micro cut up and ******.

    I noticed that the guy in the vidio was wearing a full body suit to protect himself, something my salesman diden't mention.

    The vidio looked very impresive though, as there was no masking envolved.

    Maybe I will fill my sandblaster up with water and try it!
     
  23. CharlieLed
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    I just happened to see the MMLJ "Dustless Blasting" segment on My Cl***ic Car this morning. Thought I would do a search to see if anyone had more info and only found the previous posts with the same questions I have. I did find the price on the DB150 unit...$4,995. The "New Age" brand gl*** media is a separate product and not manufactured by MMLJ. Much more info can be found doing searches on this media than can be found at the MMLJ site. From what I have found the media is used by a number of shipyards and other industrial companies with great success. I think that MMLJ has a good product BUT they seem to be targeting the "franchise" market rather than the small shop/enthusiast market.
    I like the idea that the media is "green" and does not have the detrimental health issues that sandblasting does...I think that I could even use it here in SoCal without being sent to prison. I like the technology and would use a "Dustless Blasting" dealer if I could find one locally...don't have deep enough pockets to buy into the unit however.
     
  24. noboD
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    They used a big air compressor. would that warp just like dry blasting? And I too noticed they didn't mask off the windows. Rust inhibitor was good for 72 hours. What about all the water and gl*** in bad places? Lots of questions here. Don't think I'd use it on an ***embled car.
     
  25. Mr48chev
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    I saw that same show an hour ago and it does use ground up gl*** bottles as the media. Not something I want laying around out in the area of the driveway that I would have to do the work at home in.

    The liquid that was poured in with the water was a rust inhibitor that lasted X amount of time.

    The unit that was on My Cl***ic Car is on this site http://dustlessblastingblog.com/ Scroll down the page. $4995.00 is a bit rich for my blood though.
     
  26. swimeasy
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    I am sending this one BTTT and was wandering if any of you people have bought one of these are have seen one in use?
     
  27. Bigchuck
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    Do you have to listen to that ****py techno music when using it? Just think- somebody thought that is the coolest music they could get for their video to sell their stuff.
     
  28. HomemadeHardtop57
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    Lets see how it works on 80 year old ford metal with surface rust, pits, and 6 layers of paint. That light coat of red was very misleading
     
  29. Mike Miller
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    Their new vidio shows them doing a 63 Impala with multiple layers of paint, body filler and rust. Looks pretty slick. Spendy, but slick.
     
  30. moparmuscle1
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    I really like the way it works on the impala , but I guess the price for the bigger ones here in Canada means I'd need a rather large mortgage . Even the smaller one means I'd have to sell my project to buy one , but without the project I dont need the blaster . :rolleyes:

    What would it take to convert over a sand blaster , you could buy a lot of parts and pieces for 5 grand .
     

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