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Dustless paint removal

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by VoodooTwin, May 28, 2012.

  1. VoodooTwin
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    Saw this on the tube today, thought it was kinda cool. I have no business interest in this, just posting it to see if anyone has tried it? Another alternative to sand/soda blasting, apparently. If this was posted somewhere already, I apologize in advance. Here's their vid:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ7CFGIP4uk
     
  2. 34toddster
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    Worth looking into, what was the liquid that they poured in the tank with a measuring cup? Thanks for the thread!
     
  3. chaddilac
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    So it's water and sand.... yep it's dustless!
     
  4. redlinetoys
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    Very interesting, though it does look like that car had been painted specially to be stripped.

    Looked like a coat or two of red over bare metal. No acid etch prime or surfacer under there.

    Not taking anything away from the process, but I would have liked to have seen it stripping away multiple layers of primer, basecoats and clearcoats.

    Will be checking this out further though. Thanks for posting.
     
  5. redlinetoys
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    Just went to the website. Curious what the cost of the smaller DB150 unit is...
     
  6. 55Hydramatic
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    Yea thats very interesting. Wouldnt the blasting media screw up the windows if you hit it though?? I didnt see them put anything over them.
     
  7. 34toddster
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    Just like the pot that will do sand, bead ,soda etc. That isn't the real cost, it's that 185 CFM diesel compressor that's a butt load of cash, even used.
     
  8. ss34coupe
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    This looks like something worth checking out. I went to the website and could not see a price posted anywhere. Anybody have an idea what the cost of these units are?
     
  9. 51poncho
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    Saw this stuff on the show my classic car this weekend.
    Its ground up glass bottles that they are using. Looks pretty cool.
     
  10. chaddilac
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    And I bet it'd drain that tank pretty stinkin' quick!!!!
     
  11. 60galaxieJJ
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    The whole time I was thinking that Cadillac didn't need to be stripped.
    Looks like sandblasting with water added.
     
  12. MEDDLER1
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    The compressor is about 100 bux a day from most rental yards sometimes a little cheaper if they know ya and you rent it more than once. Like others have said though it was a simple base coat they used for the demo I wonder how much material goes into an older paint job with a few coats of paint left on it.
     
  13. Pimpin37zephyr
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    I just hate when a company won't list their price so they can get your info first .
    Must be free according to their math.
     
  14. slammed
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    Some very good questions here. Lets hope they see them and answer.
     
  15. BISHOP
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    That DB150 unit looks like something I would be interested in. 30-150 psi.

    Definitely something to look into. Im going to call them tomorrow and let yall in on the details.
     
  16. snaptwo
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    I've used something similar, siphon tube in a bucket of sand with a Hotsy diesel fired burner pressure washer, about 1500 lbs. at the nozzle at 212 degrees.It was a special injector nozzle that one would hook up to a hot/cold pressure washer. It worked great however the GPM of the washer limits its removal rate ,it also went thru many ceramic blast nozzles.
     
  17. nexxussian
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    I've seen the pressure washer adapter, hooks on like a different nozzle.

    Haven't tried it, just seen it in he local industrial supply house.
     
  18. nexxussian
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    Oh, about the extra stuff they add, since they say it protects the metal for a few days it is likely an etchant, judging from the color and how it pours, I'm guessing vinegar.
     
  19. FlynBrian
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    Did a little searching on the net, looks like that DB150 is around $4600 :eek:
    I think I will just deal with the dust and sand, I like the way it squishes between my toes.:D
     
  20. Fortunateson
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    Just saw this on "Classic Car" yesterday. Yeah, the youtube demo car looks like it had one layer of cheap top coat. Nice observation. On "Classic Car" they mentioned something about soda blasting and ill affects on adhesion of primer/top coats. Has anyone heard of this?
     
  21. cryobug
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    I have the pressure washer sand blaster system and I have been very pleased with it. It it is still messy and when your done you still need to dry blast the flash rust off. The fastest and best way I have found to strip paint is the large crud busters on my buffer. Something like this; http://www.amazon.com/Poly-X-Paint-Rust-Removal-Stripping/dp/B005QP3QLO?tag=vglnk-c299-20

     
  22. Roger Walling
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    I did "sand blasting" with "glass beads" once.

    The salesman showed that the beads were not sharp and could not cut you.
    That was before I used them. When I finished, my arms were all micro cut up and bloody.

    I noticed that the guy in the vidio was wearing a full body suit to protect himself, something my salesman diden't mention.

    The vidio looked very impresive though, as there was no masking envolved.

    Maybe I will fill my sandblaster up with water and try it!
     
  23. CharlieLed
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    I just happened to see the MMLJ "Dustless Blasting" segment on My Classic Car this morning. Thought I would do a search to see if anyone had more info and only found the previous posts with the same questions I have. I did find the price on the DB150 unit...$4,995. The "New Age" brand glass media is a separate product and not manufactured by MMLJ. Much more info can be found doing searches on this media than can be found at the MMLJ site. From what I have found the media is used by a number of shipyards and other industrial companies with great success. I think that MMLJ has a good product BUT they seem to be targeting the "franchise" market rather than the small shop/enthusiast market.
    I like the idea that the media is "green" and does not have the detrimental health issues that sandblasting does...I think that I could even use it here in SoCal without being sent to prison. I like the technology and would use a "Dustless Blasting" dealer if I could find one locally...don't have deep enough pockets to buy into the unit however.
     
  24. noboD
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    They used a big air compressor. would that warp just like dry blasting? And I too noticed they didn't mask off the windows. Rust inhibitor was good for 72 hours. What about all the water and glass in bad places? Lots of questions here. Don't think I'd use it on an assembled car.
     
  25. Mr48chev
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    I saw that same show an hour ago and it does use ground up glass bottles as the media. Not something I want laying around out in the area of the driveway that I would have to do the work at home in.

    The liquid that was poured in with the water was a rust inhibitor that lasted X amount of time.

    The unit that was on My Classic Car is on this site http://dustlessblastingblog.com/ Scroll down the page. $4995.00 is a bit rich for my blood though.
     
  26. swimeasy
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    I am sending this one BTTT and was wandering if any of you people have bought one of these are have seen one in use?
     
  27. Bigchuck
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    Do you have to listen to that crappy techno music when using it? Just think- somebody thought that is the coolest music they could get for their video to sell their stuff.
     
  28. HomemadeHardtop57
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    Lets see how it works on 80 year old ford metal with surface rust, pits, and 6 layers of paint. That light coat of red was very misleading
     
  29. Their new vidio shows them doing a 63 Impala with multiple layers of paint, body filler and rust. Looks pretty slick. Spendy, but slick.
     
  30. moparmuscle1
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    I really like the way it works on the impala , but I guess the price for the bigger ones here in Canada means I'd need a rather large mortgage . Even the smaller one means I'd have to sell my project to buy one , but without the project I dont need the blaster . :rolleyes:

    What would it take to convert over a sand blaster , you could buy a lot of parts and pieces for 5 grand .
     

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