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Projects What!!? another 27 on 32 chassis!??. Scratch build body.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Mindover, Jun 5, 2011.

  1. Mindover
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    I think I hijacked my own thread lol - I did a bit more on the cowl this morning so I will try to put some photos up on Monday,

    David
     
  2. GizmoJoe
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    I guess I started you off-track by asking about the wheeling machines and stuff. ;)
     
  3. Dyce
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    David the thread is highjacked!! But You keep it up!!!! Most of us into shaping havn't worked with the old cast machines and havn't seen there good or bad points. Plus the HF wheel info helps. What I found it takes a few frames (e-wheel frames) to do everything. Sometimes you need a lower adjuster and stub shaft on the upper for a reverse. Other times you need a big upper and lower to do a low crown panel. I am really curious to know if you have worked with anvils with flats, and full radius and can explain some of the methods for each. I would love to here your expearience with these wheels.... I feel the subject is directly related to the reference to the HF wheel...
     
  4. Mindover
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    Jeff. Perhaps we should start another thread and put a link here.

    David
     
  5. Dyce
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    I agree David. The modern wheel with flats, and the early cast wheels with true radius anvils is always a good discussion. Plus the e-wheel used as a bead roller with the through shaft. You have the knowledge of the coach builders that would help us all understand. A new thread would be the way to go.... If you start is it would keep going a while. It seems as soon as I post anything the thread stops dead LOL...
     
  6. fleet-master
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    Hey!! I thought that was just me!! :D:D:D:p thats happened to me more than once, I was gona change my handle to The Thread Killer!! :D:D
     
  7. fitzee
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    Hay!! start 3 or 4 threads!! I love all this stuff. The simple tool stuff I love.Be nice to have all the right gear but its not easy getting those tools. so like I said, I do with what I have or can make. That Anglia coupe is wild..Love those cars.. you nailed the scale looks right. I started a few years back to start building a T bucket body and gave up on it. the one panel I did make sits on my wall in my shop. thats why I am watching this one closely might light a fire under me to go back at it.lol.
     
  8. Mindover
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    As soon as I post in other threads they seem to die! so you are not alone.

    David
     
  9. Mindover
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    Like I said you don't have to have large machines, most things can be done with a few hand tools - it just takes more effort.

    I love the coupe it was an great time building hot rods with my friends, I built a few around that time all traditional in style at a time when billet was the fashion.

    David
     
  10. When it comes to the need for big flash machines, you don't need them at all. A member of our club built this car at home in a two car garage with an anvil and a hollowed block to hammer into. No fancy swagers or machines.
    The fact that it started life as a Tudor, and now it has a removeable hard top, full fenders, and can be converted to a Highboy in a matter of minutes, is nothing short of amazing!

    [​IMG]

    So it is nice to have the "Right gear" but not necessary!
     
  11. GizmoJoe
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    Okay guys.. this is meant in GOOD spirit. Honest. :)
    I'm not trying to be mean in any way. In fact.. I'm complimenting you folks who don't need anything more than a rock and a broken tree to make a car out of raw iron ore.
    But...
    Saying that you don't need fancy equipment and all it takes is more effort means YOU don't need fancy equipment.
    Not every one of us has the same level of talent.
    I could beat on a piece of metal for days and not get the result I can get with my crude, homemade planishing hammer and wheel in an afternoon.
    With years of training and practice... maybe I wouldn't need the fancy schmancy tools. I'm 54 and sore. I need all the help I can afford.
    Give me a computer to fix or someone for me to teach how to do it.. that's different. Been doing that for 30 years!

    Now.... David: get back to work and keep impressing us. :)
    And please start a thread showing us how to use the fancy machines. Just place a link here so we can find it. Teasing us with your DVDs is ok as far as I'm concerned. It's on my list of wants.

    Woodbox: wow... nice.

    Joe
     
  12. SimonSez
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    That's a great looking coupe - I have seen some others that just don't have the right proportions but that one is great. Did it ever get on the road?


     
  13. Well I love these kind of threads. I check them all the time. I just don't have anything to add is all, I dont have the knowledge (yet) I read and hopefully learn. I think if you guys check the views and not just the comments you will see how much these threads are appreciated. Thanks!
     
  14. Mindover
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    You are exactly right!.
    David




    Joe I am almost the same age as you and I have more machines now but I did a lot of this by hand for years. Most of the finishing and shaping is still done by hand. Its the only way to get a good finish. The point of the DVD is to show people the skills and techniques so they can do it!. Its not one of these DVDs that pretend to teach you something while not showing very much and trying to sell you tools and machines. There is a lot of info on it.
    I don't say don't ever use a machine. I show how to do it by hand which teaches the principle and if you have a wheeling machine or a bead roller that is great. I also show how to join metal without causing too much distortion, how to, lead load, how to metal finsh panels, wire edge, shrink and stretch flanges without a machine, creating curved flanges and much more. It is prety much what I would teach at college in a year of evening classes, condenced so that the info is there and you can watch it over and over to then practice and learn the skills.

    David





    It was on the road for a good few years then Bob bought it and took it to Australia.

    David





    The threads die if no-one comments though. Not so much build threads like this one but discussion threads die if only a few people comment.

    David
     
  15. GizmoJoe
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    Ok :) Thanks for that.
    I just ordered the DVD so we'll see. ;)
    I'm not terrible with metal but skills that some of you have are special, no matter if you admit it or not.
    I will show you a picture or two of stuff I've attempted after watching the DVD.
    Actually... I will make fenders (wings) for my T so that will be a good test after some (lots of) practice.
    Joe
     
  16. Mindover
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    Cheers Bob, I did put it up before but no harm having another link.

    David
     
  17. Mindover
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    Joe, I was not pushing it on you. just trying to say if you have a guide things become easier. You said you teach people about computers, its the same thing they could probably learn on therir own but will get on a lot quicker with someone showing them.

    David

    ...but thanks for your custom!.
     
  18. GizmoJoe
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    Hey! In NO way did I think you were pushing the videoon me! :)
    I've considered it for a long time and finally decided to get it. :)
    From all the reviews around the world... it should be fantastic information.
    Can't wait.

    Joe
     
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  19. Mindover
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    Cheers Joe I hope you like the DVD It will be posted in the morning.

    David
     
  20. It's worth every penny Joe!
     
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  22. Mindover
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    Cheers- Glad you like the DVD!.

    David
     
  23. Mindover
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    Thank you!.

    David
     
  24. GizmoJoe
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    Good to know. :)
    After seeing the youtube videos and reading the reviews I can't wait to get it.

    David,
    It appears that you haven't posted any pictures of the T since the 7th.
    Any updates?
    Did you manage to work on the A post?
    I may reshape mine. I'd like to see what you do for that.

    Joe
     
  25. SimonSez
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    Thanks, good to see it's progressing as well!

     
  26. johnod
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    Hi David, Is your DVD in the north american format? I don't know what it's called but I know it's different.

    Thanks
     
  27. Kreepea_1
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    Johnod, I bought David's DVD and works great in my player. Great instructional video. I've been giving the gas welding a go, working on that no filler even-temp single pass.
     
  28. Mindover
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    Hi Johnod, I had it made in NTSC as used in the USA and Canada and in pal as used in most of Europe, Australia, newzealand etc. Most players in the world will play NTSC formated discs in any case.

    David
     
  29. Mindover
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    Joe, I did a little on Saturday, Monday was a complete write off because I was runniing around for my daughter. So I am trying to catch up with work. don't know when I will get more done - soon I hope.

    David

    Creepea 1 Glad you like it!.

    David
     

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