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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hooch, Jun 16, 2012.

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  1. metalshapes
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  2. Gromit
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    Refering to how he handled the rust and kept the patina. The only thing that sucks on that car are the wheels, and that is only a matter of opinion.
     
  3. metalshapes
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    He didnt keep the 'tina.

    He washed off the rust, and sealed it in clear.

    Sorry, I dont get it...

    And those wheels are as lame as the name he gave it ( distressed rod or depression rod or something like that...)
     
  4. ynottayblock
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    "Our definition of Traditional doesnt change just because the Rat Rodders and the Mini Truckers got involved in it" -metalshapes

    that just might be one of the best things I've read on the hamb in a while.
     
  5. I may get depressed riding around in it. :D

    At least he did away with the rust which is more than other folks around here do. But that doesn't change the fact that it needs to be painted before all is said and done.
     
  6. Gromit
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    Rust aint patina...
     
  7. Right, it is patina gone to hell.
     
  8. zman
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    that would be a great sig
     
  9. metalshapes
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    Its interesting that a link to that car would show up on this Thread.

    To me, there are some similarities beween those two vehicles.

    Like the OP said, Binders probably werent chosen very often to be Hot Rodded.
    Neither were 4Dr wagons.

    Bags werent used very often ( maybe Larry Watson did?), nobody was laying frame.
    Neither were big inch wheels with rubberband tires, or clearcoat over distressed paint.

    We say we try to educate the OP of this Thread and thats why we said something about his Photoshop.

    But the builder of the wagon gets much praise and adulation...
     
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  11. Gromit
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    I think one definition of Traditional is doing what you want. The biggest issue I think with the OP Cornbinder was the insane drop. The patina looks pretty cool. I know it's not something a 1960 Binder would have in 1964, but I think the look suits the truck. It's a shame the adverizing was for an excavator company and not a garage, otherwise some of you critics would be gushing all over it. The base of the issue here ought to be, the guy saved a cool old truck from being scrapped. He likes the look.. CLR and clear coat will keep it from getting worse, and when YOU buy it you can paint it whatever colour you want.
     
  12. metalshapes
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    You are completely missing my point.

    Poor Hooch is getting kicked in the nuts for thinking about a non Trad build, and then you send him to a Thread with a car thats worse than his own...
     
  13. EnglishBob
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    That I just don't get.
     
  14. Perrorojo
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    My post count is low so take this with a grain of salt.

    Is the truck cool? Sure.
    Would I rather see it cruched? No.
    Should it be featured on this website? Not really.

    The H.A.M.B does not need to conform to the wishes of those members seeking acceptance and fame.

    There is nothing on this thread that Ryan hasn't already addressed.
     
  15. zman
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    You new guys always want to try and say that. And we hammered out what "traditional" means here a long long time ago. Suffice to say that wasn't it. It's pretty easy to figure out what the HAMB is about. Some people are stubborn and just want the HAMB to conform to what they want. Not gonna happen. It's about the history and what cars were like back then, not some weird modern interpretation. Yeah some things that can't be seen get a pass, but not much.
     
  16. KillerKustom
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    Enjoy YOUR truck.
     
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    Man if I knew I could get 7 pages of Holy er than Tho , I would have bought the dang thing.
    I know Hooch and I'm sure he was just showing you what he was going to do. I seriously doubt that that he is looking for acceptance from the HAMB World . Lots of the people here remind me of the guy that spends $40,000 buying a car and then telling everybody how he built it.
    So now that I cut my own throat I will bow out. My POS Econoline truck didn't fit here either. But have a nice day!
     
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    My point had nothing to do with wheels, or anything else about the car.. it had to do with "If you want patina, at least protect your truck" I don't give a flying walnut about the specifics..I was impressed by how the guy killed the rust and kept the patina he wanted. That was the point.


    as far as what's traditional and not? well there's a goodly number of cars on here, My Fairlane included that I wouldn't call exactly traditional. Done using period parts? yeah, but certainly not what you would call traditional in the strictest sense. Too many doors. Are we going to just tell everyone with a moredoor to get lost? That would be the right thing to do perhaps. I remember wanting to haul home a model A sedan home and my buddies said it wasn't worth the effort, even for free because it was a 4 door. Maybe that suits better then. Pickups and wagons too.. Not a lot of those in the "little pages" Maybe it's time for a cleansing of members?
     
  21. The problem is he is showing it to the wrong people. No one here has a problem with him doing what he wants but one should know their audience before they post.
     
  22. general gow
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    A lot of us are into other cars too. They just aren't part of this conversation here, that we call the HAMB.

    imagine having a conversation about renovating a house with cedar shingles and interior decoration that matched when the place was built in 1948 and some random dude interrupted with how he had just bought a house from 1948 too, but he gutted it and covered it in vinyl siding and put in wi-fi and wall size TVs and a refrigerator that talks to you...

    it's all well and good. people can do whatever they want. but don't come into MY garage and talk about vinyl siding and talking TVs and expect me to be interested. i don't care. the people that hang out in this garage are interested in a particular kind of car. why keep trying to steer the conversation off course to mini trucks in disguise? we like what we like, and now somehow we're supposed to be all inclusive and tell everyone that what they do is traditional even though it never happened before 2010, and give out hugs for air bags or something.

    i know i said i was done. but for crying out christmas...why is this so hard to understand? it's all laid out in the section on what the HAMB is about. and people are still surprised.
     
  23. -Brent-
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    1 - I don't think the contrarian responses are "holier than thou." Rather, they're commenting on something that doesn't fit the site, that's pretty much it... with extraneous details. The seven pages aren't a badge of honor or anything. I don't get why that matters.

    2 - Why post it on the HAMB then? That thought process doesn't work. I don't think a lot of us post new threads are looking for acceptance but more for adding to a conversation on a topic we all enjoy. That, at least the way I see it, is the reason most people post. If you're looking for acceptance, online, you've got other things to worry about, for sure.

    3 - How so? How does the critique here remind you of that?

    4 - I don't think anything you wrote would be deemed anything close to "cutting your own throat." These types of threads will never go away, nor will the staunch protection of the crux of this site.
     
  24. metalshapes
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    Gromit, the more I read your posts, the more I think you are just here for the Drama.

    Hooch can do whatever he wants with his Truck.

    The Street Rodder with the Wagon can do whatever he wants with his car too.

    As far as posting on the HAMB, People will point out stuff that is not Trad.

    Because its a Site that concentrates on Traditional Hot Rods and Traditional Customs.



    And for what its worth...

    I really like the second Photoshop.

    It reminds me a little of this heap, that some dork in Tucson is driving around...

    Truck 005.jpg
     
  25. Dog Dish Deluxe
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    I agree with the not slamming it on the groud like a mini truck thing. We left the lowrider thing back in the 90's and thats where it should stay.
     
  26. Alex, who takes resposibility { a beating } for the air cleaner on the hemi next to the black P/U? :rolleyes:
     
  27. Gromit
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    Not here for drama.. actually I'm sorry. A little grumpy I guess. I meant what I said but could have phrased it better. Again. Apologies.
     
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    Wouldn't that make a mini trucker or a child molester traditional? I mean hell they are just doing what they want, right?

    There is something that gets missed by a lot of the fellas and that is that when traditional was not yet traditional they were pretty much doing what they wanted. What we are doing is keeping the era and the type of rods and customs that they built alive. It is out of respect of tradition that we do what we do.
     
  29. Gromit
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    OKay okay!!! what I mean is not trying to conform to what every other guy says you should be doing, but within the context of the form. otherwise the only cars here would be red 32 Roadsters... or something. Are you equating mini truckers with child molesters? not dissin you for it, just wondering :) Now can we let my stupid comments die the death they deserve?
     
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