Screw dynamat. Peel and seel great sound dampening material....

I have just used this stuff on the cab of my 40 Ford pickup.Works great, I have done the firewall, floors and rear panel of the cab. Anyone used it on the inside of the roof?

The car audio installers use it all the time. If you look at the reviews of the product 90% of them are for using it as sound deadening.

 

When you get rich, just buy a new truck, the floors in yours will likely have fallen out by then if not sooner

 

I have been using the peel and stick stuff for years. It's trailer house insulation...I first found it in a roofing supply store. I put it down first and dyna mat on top of it...its really quite....I can hear a mouse fart while driving a 100 MPH now.

 

Thanks for the tip - I actually have a bad spot on my roof I need to patch myself!

 

Peel & Seal really works great, My pickup is done 100% inside.It's quiet as a church inside. A few things to remember when using it, It conducts electricity so keep it away from the wiring or you may be chasing shorts all over the place, It adheres best to a clean surface so get rid of the dust,rust ,etc and use a narrow wallpaper seam roller to roll the edges and any iregularities in the metal. Did my 57 chev with foilfaced bubble wrap years ago and it didn't make a difference worth talking about, but the P&S was fantastic.

 

I used a combination of the home made Lizzard Skin covered by peel and seal and it made a huge difference in both heat in the car and sound.

For the home made Lizzard Skin, I ordered a bag of the ceramic micro beads from Wicks Aircraft about $20 and instead of mixing them in regular latex paint, I used a rubberized paint that is made to seal the roof of mobile homes. Got it at Home Depot for about $30, I think it was called Snow Seal or something like that. Painted all the interior of my 48 Plymouth coupe including inside the doors and kick panel area.

Once the paint had dried I started laying the peel and seal using my wife's hair dryer to heat the sticky side before putting it down. Used a small wooden wall paper seam roller to smooth it out and make sure it had good surface contact. I have had exactly 1 small piece come loose from the pasenger kick panel area where it went over a couple of good sozed holes stamped in the metal from the factory. Have had none come loose from inside the doors.

I did not do the roof as I was not ready to pull the fragile headliner and put in a new one. Still have some of the Lizzard Skin left over for when I am ready for the roof. Then I will cover it with peel and seal, then the foil bubble insulation and put in the new headliner. If it cuts the heat as much on the roof as it did on the floor and firewall, it will make driving in the Texas heat a whole lot more enjoyable.

 

I think you'd find there's various factors relative to flammability/combustibility -

Does it burn, or just kinda melt?

If it does burn, how readily does it ignite and how violently does it burn?

Whether it burns or not, how toxic are the fumes it puts off when exposed to heat/flame?

This latter point is probably the biggest concern with a lot of products used inside cars.

 

I did my F1 cab with peel and seal and I'm happy with it. I first applied home made lizard skin on all interior surfaces with a brush. Search hotrodders.com to find out how to make it. Peel and seal from lowes went on next. Since it narrow, it's easy to apply to uneven surfaces. Cut it with a utilty knife. The package says apply in 60 degree or warmer weather to make the adhesive stick. Inside the doors and the roof I sprayed 3m contact cement for some extra stick. No problems with it falling off parked in 100 degree days with the windows up, no odor either. I used two layers on the floor, alternating seams.

 

I wonder how it would work if I were to mix the ceramic micro beads into my POR-15 when I'm ready to do my floor... Two birds, one stone. Then Peel-N-Stick over that.

 

Don't see why the micro beads would not work mixed in the Por-15.

One thing that I can't state strongly enough is WEAR A RESPIRATOR when you open/mix the micro beads. They are extremely small and will blow around like crazy if you are not carefull. You do not want lungs full of a bunch of ceramic beads.

 

I use similar products all the time as window flashing. In instances where the product won't stick we use a "Grace" brand primer/ sealer. Works amazing even on vertical and overhead horizontal surfaces. I assume it would work as well or better than the 3M adhesive but as I haven't used it I can't say. Also not sure of the cost as I am just the labor.

 

My brother-in-law was given a 40 foot roll of some stuff (similar to Dynamat) in order to see if his equipment could cut it. (He sells large automated cutting systems for his company). He said I could use what I need free of charge, otherwise I would consider the S&P. I think my biggest concern would be the tar smell, if there is any, on days hen it's really hot out.

 

Really.... Mine smell like oil smoke and gas fumes. I gotta have me some Tar smell to make it complete.




Obviously, I'm just fucking with you.... My cars do not smell like tar with this stuff. All 3 have it and no trace of a roofer smell anywhere....

Usually roofers smell like sweat and butt crack. My cars don't smell like sweat.

 

I put down a layer in the cab of my C10. Inexpensive, easy to lay, available at Lowe's and does not smell. At all. I just took it to a cruise-in the other night, it was 100+ temp and no smell. Swamp ass, yes. Tar smell, no.

 

Do we have any scientific comparisons of the differences between Dynamat and Peel 'n Seal???

 

The Peel & Stick product is referred to as flashband in the Roofing industry. It's general purpose is to used underneath clay & concrete tile ridge caps to seal the area off from any moisture getting underneath the tiles. It's available in both foil back and black back in 9,12,18 and 36 inch widths at 50 feet per roll. I'm not sure what the burn rate is but for a cheap alternative to the pricey stuff it's an ok product. Great for sound systems.

 

I didn't read all the pages, maybe somebody already talked about this stuff. It's duct insulation. Self adhesive and cheap. Anybody use it?
http://www.lowes.com/pd_28929-1410-...t=duct+insulation&pl=1&currentURL=&facetInfo=

 

Thanks for the info! I'll definately be giving it a try.

 

That's the stuff to use !!!

 

I used the same peel and seal left over from a roof repair job and it worked great. No smell at all. Cant beat the price either.

 

I installed peel and seal today on my firewall and floor. It went on easy and seemed to stick well. I am covering with carpet with a jute backing tomorrow. I am hoping all the positive comments are correct.

 

I ordered a bag of ceramic micro beads this afternoon (after reading through this thread) and have decided I'm going to try adding it to the POR-15 when I do the floor. Like I said earlier... two birds, one stone. I plan to use Peel-N-Stick on top of it. I'll let y'all know how it goes this week, assuming my micro beads get here.

 

Thanks for the info fellas this will help alot!

 

The ceramic beads are going to give you more insulation from heat and not do much for sound. You need the hollow glass mirco spheres for sound deadening. It is the hollow inside that insulates from sound waves. That is why Lizard Skin has two products one for heat and one for sound.

 

I used Peel and Seal and FatMat in two different OT trucks. I'm happy with both and have experienced zero issues with either one. One truck was completed 3 years ago, the other one was 7 years ago. I'll be using a combination of Peel/Seal and the foam duct insulation in my 50.

 

Can you order the hollow glass spheres from somewhere? I'd be tempted to try a 50/50 mix of the two in my POR-15. Right now I'm driving it daily with just a bare steel floor, and it is hotter than six Hells and about as loud as a trash truck crashing into a cookie sheet factory. I'd have a real good baseline to compare the results to. And as I see it, even 50% less heat and 50% less sound I'm experiencing "naked" would be a substantial improvement. I'm all about experimenting with new materials, and the '53 is as good a guinea pig as any, right?

Anyone got any powdered asbestos laying around?

 

Although not traditional..... I used this material on a new stainless steel sink with a garbage disposal.

The sink acted like a speaker to increase the noise of the disposal. Couple layers of peel - stick material on the bottom of the sink near the disposal , much quieter.

I luv multi-use material

 

I'm gonna make my wife a Peel-N-Stick jumpsuit... Maybe it'll cut down on the constant bitching and nagging sound I hear coming from her...

 

Yes I think some aircraft supply places carry them. Post # 23 suggested Wicks aircraft supply. They are also known as micro bubbles.

 

LMAO!! I resemble that remark!!
Jimmy from Delta Roofing!! LOL!!