This is OUR version of history.

Yer' welcome Beaner, but don't feel like the Lone Ranger...

Reminds me of that old joke:

"It’s looks like we’re in a lot of trouble, old friend! Tonto: What do you mean “we”, Paleface?"
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That's just plain ol' douchebaggery at its finest. Nothin to do with young or old, just attitude.

 

Hey Rocky, I hope you aren't talking about me!

I have a great time chatting with you at A&W, hope to see you there next week, I'll be out of town for the holiday this Wednesday.. and I have a CD for you...

 

Thanks Bud! (see post #119) See ya' there.
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I'm 57---I sure miss old guys like my dead father. They know so much--they learned the hard way how to fix stuff without parts--could fix anything --
Now I'm an old guy and the young ones don't think I now anything--it has changed

 

im 24 and we will sit and listen to any of our elders about the good ol days...for as long as they want to talk

 

Rocky, thats shitty that that happened to you. Not really what I was picturing when I read your original post. My previous post was overly harsh and I'm sorry. I owe you a beer.

 

It's cool. No one owes me anything. Enjoy that beer. Cheers!
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You are one of the few! By the time you are 40 you will have vast knowlage of what really was and not what someone today thinks it was like.

I'm 55 and although "old timers" to me are too far and few between these days, I can sit for hours (around a campfire as one previously posted) and inhale a wealth of knowlage. Trust me, I didn't get to know what I know from any computer (hell there wasn't one). Almost everything I know I learned from old timers and now I guess I am one. Hopefully someone will listen when I tell them what I know.

 

I know young guys who are hacks. I know old guys who are hacks. I know old guys who have told me their friend had a "mustang GTO with a hemi". I know young guys who's friend had a "hyundai that did wheelies". whats the point?

 

You are one of "them" that can't be taught!

 

I'll be 71 next month and I love to talk to the young guys about their cars. If I don't get a good vibe from them I just turn and walk away. The youngsters that really respect tradition will talk for hours. Legends are created by the spoken word not the written word.

 

I thought hot rods were 23-34 fords

 

sorry to say the kid is an ass. im young. but if my kids did that i would beat them. please dont stero type youngins based on the actions of 1 asshat. (i still dont know what that means - but someone else used it so its fitting i guess)

 

Yes he was,

 

Well you are younger than me so I am not ever going to listen to anything that you have to say.

An ass hat is someone who has their head stuck in their ass. Sometimes ass hat is an understatement some folks have their head stuck so far up there that it echoes when they talk.

There are young people out there that know quite a bit historically and others that are willing to learn. I think that at least for my part I just throw it out there. If someone picks it up good for them and if not well at least I tried. Maaybe when I am dead and gone something of me will remaion and if not I don't think it will really make much difference at least I probably won't be too concerned about it.

 

Oh, a Harley, that splains it.

 

Ha Ha!

Thank you Beaner!

It's nice to know that I'm still a piss pot to someone!

By the way..... I respect my elders therefore I will always respect you.

 

Respect is earned, I guess in your case I will have to start respecting my youngers.

 

I've got quite a few older (65-70 yrs old) friends that I talk to on a regular basis. If I want to know how it really was I just ask them. One friend in particular built his first hot rod (29 a roadster) when he was all of 14. He has owned many cars since then (2-250) total, mostly hot rods or customs. These older friends of mine are not the least bit shy to talk about the good ol days or about how to build, fab,fix something. The older generation is truly a major asset to this hobby. Without them we might not have a hobby now or know what it was really like. I am all of 31 yrs old and make apoint of talking to all the older folks I run into at swapmeets or car shows. They are a wealth of information and history. I hope I can someday be the one that young folks come up to learn about the way it was.
Matt

 

i'm still waiting to hear from a member who was actually alive in the 50's as a young adult: what about these tattooed women? would they have been sent to reform school, prison, funny farm, what? spill it... also the "drapes" of england in the fifties were wearing victorian era clothes and getting it all wrong and now they are the bloody traditionalists. what about those guys??

 

Younguns are for the most part disrespectful and I can tell ya NOBODY in the fifties and sixties drove cars with a surface rust patina! There was a lotta full blown rust holes but we usually covered the surface with a degree of home made body work and various colors of primer and never left 'em totally surfaced rusted or even partially. Once in a while if the paint was completely shot or ugly we'd paint them in our or a buddies garage or just in the driveway but never bare rusty metal. Having said that, there's nothing wrong with new styles of hot rods, 'cept on this forum.

 

I don't think that anyone ever got locked down for being inked. We did have a family friend in the '50s that said she was german and had a number tatooed on her wrist, but I am pretty sure that she got that in prison and was not put in prison for getting it.

Tatoos even if you were a man usually meant that you were a dirty no good. I don't recall many tatooed women that were not "property" of someone.

Of course I was not a grown man until later in the century so mabe I just don't know that they had a prison just for inked women.

 

Man it would be a boring world if we all looked the same n drove the same kinda car! Im 52 n still dont know a damn thing! Igot a chain on my wallet so i dont lose the fucker!I got my first tatt when i was 14 so my tatts are older then most of these guys! And none of this makes any sence to me either! Theres smart young guys n old guys so why cant we all jus get along! lol

 

I agree. While I wasn't born until 59, I have talked to and listened to a LOT of guys that were there then.
The guy that owned my car in the early 50s to the mid 60s talked about that to some extent. A rod wasn't "done" until it was painted.
Sadly he's gone now and I never got "his" car done so he could see it one more time.
But as far as "tradition" goes, what was/is the tradition of hot rodding?
My take on it is, basically, this:
Taking a (usually older, meaning cheap and affordable to the prospective builder) car and making improvements to performance and looks.
It would usually start with engine mods. Then more engine mods. Wheels/tires. Maybe some body and suspension mods as time and money allowed. New paint and interior.
As one's knowledge, skills and automotive technology in general improved, more improvements to one's car were made to include the latest technology. Whether it was relieving the valves and putting 3 97s on a flathead, or electronic fuel injection.
Angling the "new" tube shocks or 4 bar link suspension, coil overs and sway bars. "Upgrading" to '40 juice brakes or 4 wheel discs.
Traditional hot rodding didn't end in 1960 or even 2010.
Everything related to automotive performance we see today from hot rods built with vintage parts and styling (HAMB friendly so to speak) to mini trucks, rat rods, tuners, drag cars, funny cars, top fuel dragsters, Fox body Mustang foot brake bracket cars (even though I throw up in my mouth a little bit just saying that), NASCAR, GTP, mud dragsters, hi tech street rods, pull tractors, go carts and hell, even racing lawn mowers are all part of the tradition of hot rodding.
Take a POS car and make it go faster than your buddy's or the guy's from across town.
And to think it all started with two guys that thought his horse was faster than the other guy's.

 

As a young person, I sometimes find it hard to discern between older fellas who are a wealth of knowledge and offering wise advice and wisdom, and those who are just full of shit, and just like to hear themselves talk.

I have come across both kinds at car shows. How do you tell which is which?

 

Without proper treatment it can also progress to a condition requiring a "plexotomy". This a medical procedure where a plexiglass viewing port is surgically inserted into the "ass hat's" abdomen because his head is now so far up his ass he can't otherwise see where he's going.

THAT is the $64,000 dollar qustion.

 

The "ME" generation knows it all already and has no use for additional knowledge unless it centers on themselves with the pronoun "I"..

 

Educate yourself, gather as much info. from every source you can,
talk to people who do this for a living.
It's usually pretty apparent those that know, and those that don't.

 

I think you will have a very hard time finding women of the 50's with Tattoo's, or at least any that would show when they were wearing clothes. It pretty much just didn't happen. Hell , there weren't that many guys with them and the majority were Sailor's that got them during the war.

If she was from Germany she was most likely Jewish and it happened during the Holocaust and it meant she spent time at Auschwitz. It was the Nazi's way of identifying prisoners, especially after they killed them.
It was also done to Soviet POW's at the Auschwitz compound starting in 1941.
Normally these numbers would be found on the left forearm, sometimes on the outside, sometimes on the inner side.
Before the Tattoo, they used to have a metal stamp made of needles that they would pound against the left upper chest and then they would rub ink into the bleeding wound!