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Gloss vs Faux Finish AKA Rolling Bones Finish

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by The37Kid, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
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    I like well built cars way better than pedantic rants about what kind of paint should be on them and why.

    Life is a journey. Try to spend more time enjoying the ride, than how somebody else enjoys their ride.
     
  2. ROLLING BONES 1A
    Joined: Feb 12, 2007
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    Well said Gimpy
    Does it really matter if you want to make this all dressed up and shinny with no place to go or if you want it to look like it's already been there and is ready to take you.
    any one can buff through to the primmer if that's what you want - GREAT
    if that's what you think we do you have not seen our hot rods.
    shinny is quicker as said above.
     

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  3. donnie
    Joined: Sep 8, 2005
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    from NC

    The ratrodder likes it. :rolleyes:
     
  4. FlynBrian
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  5. DualQuad55
    Joined: Mar 5, 2005
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    from NH

    I am trying though. I mean I drove my car down there and I did lean on it for a few minutes. It just made me feel dirty though???
    I guess your right...
     
  6. ratrodder34
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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    from Irvine,ky.

    Yes I do.......all their cars are nice....VERY nice. And you drive a what Donnie?
     
  7. theHIGHLANDER
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    The problem with topics like this is the lack of an open mind. Some take 'cop out avenue' and babble about how it's your car, who cares what someone else does, I build my cars for me, etc. Like the folks in the topic, there's others who've been able to master the duplication of old racers and kustoms. Many hang out here on the board and many who sincerely want that look know this. They show up to ask a question and then get judged by the very same people they thought would give a few insights. If not judged they get told that their goals are ignorant or that they want to simply fit in and build their cars for everyone else but themselves. I find that just a bit insecure. There's a reason certain cars are done the way they are. The ones who deserve to be fucked off probably don't even have the knowledge or ability to enter a public discussion about how to acheive that gennie vibe. They are posers who use rust, wrought iron, even bird shit to try and fit in. They insult an ability that's recognized and appreciated by many. Maybe it's just the anonymity of forum pages, maybe a keyboard is their shield, maybe the mood in most communities just has everyone ready to be pissed about something. Any one of 100 different ways to get there can be found here by several accomplished professionals. Sadly, even their ideas can get pissed on by a few. I don't see why it's an issue to ask a question, to have to wade through a steaming pile of pig shit in order to get the answer. "It's your car..." and "I build it for me..." are kinda like saying it's daylight and high noon. Do we need that any more? I wish we didn't, but some will always try to prove their knickers lack skid marks.
     
  8. ratrodder34
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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    from Irvine,ky.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Hell yeah!
     
  9. harleycontracter
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    The guys at Rolling Bones build killer cars. I'm getting ready to build another 32 a 5 window and THAT"S the look I'm going after. Might even have to call for a few answers to questions. Keep up the great work guys. Your cars with patina attract the crowds.
     
  10. philly the greek
    Joined: Feb 15, 2009
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    The first time I saw one of the RB cars was at the GNRS in the HOP UP booth. The finish was truelly remarkable in it's execution . There are lots of people doing faux finish patina jobs that look OK , but what the RB guys are doing is absolute art . They look as though they just drove back from the '53 Bonneville nats ! I've painted a few cars , and that's just a process that some do better than others , but to make the finish appear old and not fake just amazes me . Just my opinion.
     
  11. After owning my car for five years, I finally made a trade and dropped her of with the painter. I no longer have to feel ashamed driving a car covered in primer and surface rust. For those I offend, fuck you. My shit will be shiny, and you can keep making excuses why you drive a car that looks like shit.

    P.S. Rat rods suck, patina is for fags
     
  12. Bones for me!
    Had shiny paint in the past, no more, had to stand guard to make sure some asshole didn't scratch it, sit in it, just wasn't fun.
     

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  13. Kripfink
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    Great, another keyboard covered in beer! Preach on brother Richard!
     
  14. Beau
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    I'm normally not a fan, but this ALL NEW build pulled it off.
     

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  15. The thing I don't understand is, If we are tying to build cars like they did back in the '40's, '50's or '60's why don't we build the cars they would have built? I don't think they wanted worn paint or rust. I think most would have liked to have a good paint job, just could not afford it. SO I say if you can afford good paint you should apply a good paint job. but to pay for worn paint? I just don't get it.
     
  16. PA-IndianRider
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    One of the good things about the current way hot rods are being built is an owner can drive the car in ANY state of finish and be accepted by most people. Whether the finish is primer, flat/satin or BIG BUCK paint jobs today for the most part ANYTHING GOES.

    This is especially good for those who are slowly but surely working on their hot rods body. As all of you guys know there are NO SHORT CUTS when it comes to doing bodywork & prep-time for
    Paint job.
     
  17. Special Ed
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    No question about it, Phil. It is indeed an art. BUT, there were NO fake paint jobs on cars in the fifties. None. If it's painted like that, no matter how well it's done, it cannot be considered traditional, and I thought that's what this place was all about. Art? yes. Traditional? No way.

    Fake is still fake, regardless of how well it's been done.
     
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  18. Beau
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    Shiny paint= More work

    Shitty paint= Less work
     
  19. bobscogin
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    Wouldn't building what they would have wanted to build, versus what they built be revisionist history? That doesn't seem to be acceptable here, nor should it be anywhere else.

    Bob
     
  20. john60
    Joined: Feb 18, 2009
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    Went to The Carolina's with this group of refined fellows in mr.nitty notty's roadster rain all the way down rain all the way home.did a oil pan repair,met a preacher,changed some carb. Jets, believe it or not they never asked me if my 32 had shiny paint on it. They were there to have a good time and that is what it is all about.sooooooo paint away boy's make it the way YOU like it.

    Ps. All paint shines in the rain.:
     
  21. Build a car this nice and then top it with a paint job that you sit a beer can on at the end of the day... & screw anyone who doesn't get it.

    I like their way of thinking.

    [​IMG]
     
  22. kingpins
    Joined: Apr 27, 2009
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    ive always loved the rolling bones cars. i love shinny cars aswell but man the bones guys have a great eye for style even if it is faux distressed. they remind me of old cars pulled out of garages in my dreams that are aged to perfection, chips, cracks, dents stuff few of us will ever really find any more in real life. they create that feeling for me. i love shinny cars, faux painted distressed cars, some beater cars...i just love them all. rolling bones ....nice job on your catalog of cars...very impressive in my book.
     
  23. dubie
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    It all depends on who is spraying the paint in the first place. If you have a good booth and a competent painter, your cut and buff time will be minimal. If you're a novice and shooting it in your dirty shop at home, then you're in for a lot of wet sanding and buffing on your clear coat.

    The faux finish takes about the same amount of time, depending on how aged you make it look and the type of material you use. Some paint is tougher to sand through than others. But you could easily pull off a faux patina finish on a car in your own shop in a weekend with a helper. You don't have to be as careful when applying the paint because you're intending to make it look aged and abused. Some will spray all the layers for a smoother finish and other will use a brush and roller for the under layers, just to get more texture. It's up to you to decide which route to go

    I'm doing a faux finish on my 56 pickup in the very near future. My plans have always been to have a hot rod pick up from the inside out. Everyone would love to have the natural patina over doing a faux job, but it's not always an option. Mine is just another case of this. It was sprayed in red oxide primer and left outside for 20+ years while the previous owner neglected it. The body aged perfectly but the red oxide turned pink and there's no way in hell I'm driving a pink pickup. SO the best way to try and re-create the look I want for my hot rod, is to faux finish it. I found a colour of urethane paint that is very close to the factory blue and will layer a couple colors under it so I can sand through the blue and age the paint until it looks right. The boys at Rolling Bones seem to have this finish down to a science and it just looks right on these old rods. I was raised around guys that built their own rides the way they wanted and didn't care what others thought. After all, it's not them that's going to be driving it.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinions and that's what makes the debates on this forum so great and entertaining. As for the boys over at Rolling Bones, keep on doing what you're doing. You're producing some bad ass hot rods!!!
     
  24. Not that anyone cares, but I made the decision to repaint my 36 pick up with a brush and roller. Mind you, I am taking the time to do a NICE job, not sloppy, shitty work. The first time I painted it was in 1981 or so with Centari and Lacquer, it looked nice and held up well. This time, I decieded to take an easier, more GREEN approach and brush/ roll the paint. It is turning into more work and is MUCH more tedious to get it looking neat than if I would have resprayed it. I dont plan on sanding out the minimal roller marks as I like the way it looks, sort of like the farmer just did it, so I MAY save a bit of time and labor there. If I hada timemachine, I would go back and spray, spray,spray. MITCH?
     
  25. FlynBrian
    Joined: Oct 5, 2007
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    Wow!
    There are many traditional hot rods on the Hamb with patina that are highly thought of. Calling the people that own them fags is very disrespectful!:mad: I would go back and look at some of these threads with traditional patina'ed hot rods and see who owns them before you spew crap, calling people names. You might be suprised who you are calling fags and telling them their hot rod looks like shit. Big difference between a traditional hot rod with worn patina and a Rat Rod.:rolleyes:
     
  26. they are time machines
    reproduced or original
    at what time are we traveling back to?
    '30's build?,'40's?, '50's? '60's? restoration? or... is it a reproduction of that era? or is it a reproduction of a car built in that era after being used and stored for years? different strokes for different folks.
    unless it is an untouched car from whatever era, shiny, worn or primered it is a reproduction.
     
  27. ROLLING BONES 1A
    Joined: Feb 12, 2007
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    Wow , I'm a fag ? an all this time I thought I was a lesbian .
    Well I'll just have to tell the guy we built this gay car for he's one to. He'll be so surprised .
     

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  28. RayMiller
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    Right on the money don, if it isn't your cup of tea don't drink it and if it bothers you that much eat shit I say cause you don't have to drive it! Fake patina or rust or glossy paint or bare metal is all up to the cars owner wether you agree or dis agree
     
  29. RayMiller
    Joined: Aug 9, 2005
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    Man if owning that car is gay how could you go straight lol. Where can I sign up?
     

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