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FLATCAD RACING Bonneville 2011 Build

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 38FLATTIE, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. Buddy: The car is looking awesome . . . so hang in there, keep making the right decisions and take your time. No reason to be in too much of a hurry - regardless of our natural tendencies! :rolleyes:

    We've all learned a hell of a lot since we started this effort - but with a little more planning, a bit of work and patience, some good final design decisions and work - it will see the salt. As just one member of the team, you have my support - I'll do whatever I can to help make this happen.

    Did you catch any fish?

    B&S
     
  2. Buddy,
    It looks like you could use another idler pulley on the long side to help keep tension on the belt. It looks like a long way between the two pulleys with nothing to calm the belt.
    Good luck this week and I hope you make it.
     
  3. 38FLATTIE
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    Ok, I think I found the clutch problem:

    The clutch says 1500 lbs on it, so I'm going to have to assume this is the force necessary to activate it. (yea, I know what they say about assuming!)

    The slave is a .875" diameter piston, and the master is a 1.125', putting out 909 PSI. That means I'm only getting 624 lbs of force from the slave. Looks like I need to go to a 7:1 pedal, and .750" master(2386 psi)-that would give me 1639 lbs/force from the slave.

    I think....

    edit: Oops-forgot about the 'Law of the Lever'!

    Anyone have a Ford FE clutch fork laying around they could measure?
     
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  4. hot rod pro
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    what i have ran into on the street. if you run a 6:1 pedal ratio with a master cylinder the same bore as the slave you will have a great pedal. the larger the master cylinder bore the harder the pedal feels. IE- 1.125 master- .875 slave.

    the smaller the bore, the softer the pedal feels, but less slave stroke. IE- .75 master, .875 slave.

    a happy medium is .75 master, and .75 slave, or .875 master, and .875 slave.

    in any case, just make sure that you use the full stroke of the master before the pedal hits the floor for best results.

    hope this helps.

    -danny

    p.s. feel free to give me a call if i can help.

    281 376 5932
     
  5. 38FLATTIE
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    Thanks Danny!

    Well, it looks the part, even if it isn't...Think I'll call it the 'Great Pretender'!
     

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  6. wrenchbender
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    Any news to report?
     
  7. OK Buddy how did Elmo go??????...............
     
  8. 38FLATTIE
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    Car, we did not take the car to Elmo, but had a blast there! I went straight home from there, jumped on a plane, and went to work.

    I returned home yesterday, and the thrash begins again!
     
  9. sorry to hear that I know about thrashes................
     
  10. 38FLATTIE
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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I've been gone for a while, and I'm leaving for work again in a couple of days, but I thought I'd post a quick update!

    I just finished a 1700 mile trip on the Harley, and spent a couple of days with the kids and grand kids-sure was refreshing!

    Thommyknocker came over a couple of times, and we got the troublesome clutch working! Thom took the tranny x-member home, and welded up the necessary changes-Thanks Thom!!!!

    I've been thinking about adding a second idler, and this morning I did what I knew needed done, so I tore into the FlatCad. I have the parts marked and boxed up, to ship out to Pops29 in the morning. Pops always does such great work-the tranny shifter mount he did fit like a glove! Thanks again, Don!

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  11. Keep us all posted on what we can do next to help the cause. I'm sitting out here in the 'wastelands of Ohio' . . . chomping at the frigging bit! :rolleyes:
     
  12. pops29
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    Happy Fathers Day Guys

    I think its time for the who is bringing what list. I am bringing all the stuff that i did Last year plus I will bring my tool cart full of tools, porta power,
     
  13. Hey Don is the porta power to readjust the cockpit to fit Buddy ?????
     
  14. pops29
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    LOL That will be one way to use it
     
  15. Naw - I think Buddy plans to be 'Lean, Mean and Built for Speed' . . . hasn't eaten a thing since May . . . yeah, that's it! :D
     
  16. dragrcr50
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    he better be lean and mean to drive that thing, I gave him evey inch there was in there and it's still a super tight fit for him inside all those bars... lookin foreward to this yrs trip........
     
  17. every extra lb requires hp............. oh no thats drag racing........
     
  18. dragrcr50
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    more weight..... more weight...... more weight. im gonna look for places to add it next week on the texoma flyer it aint easy to make em heavy and legal :cool:
     
  19. 38FLATTIE
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    You guys crack me up! I should be 20lbs lighter than last year, but not a bit smarter!

    I've been sidetracked, and pretty quite lately, so I thought I'd post an update.

    I replaced some of the head studs, so that I could mount the blower restraint tabs. Unfortunately, the restrains are too tight. It looks as if I'll need to turn them around, so that they point towards the top of the block, and not the bottom. This means a couple of hours with a grinder, grinding some of the fins down so that the tabs fit flush.

    Other things left are:

    Modifying the tranny tunnel for the new tranny

    mounting the fuel tank and plumbing the fuel

    mounting the new pulley system

    plumbing all the water

    plumbing the oil and filters

    exhaust

    fabbing a new push bar/parachute mount.
     
  20. Boy ya better get humpin, August is right around the corner and inquiring minds want to see the Flatcad on the salt!!!!
     
  21. OahuEli
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    ^^^ What Carl said. I've had a few questions from people about the car when I wear my Flatcad shirt and it sure would be cool to point them to a Youtube video of you blasting down the salt! No pressure!!! :eek: :D
     
  22. 38FLATTIE
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    OK, Ok, I'm on it!

    Well, nothing exciting, but progress none the less.

    The transfer water pump is plumbed in, and the water is plumbed to the primary pump on the oil pump.

    Got bungs welded in the water manifolds, so that the temp sending units can be installed.

    The exhaust is modified, so that it clears the dizzy.

    The bracket for the dual Pall filters, on the return lines, is done, along with cutting the metal for the fuel tank and oil accumulator mount.

    Thommyknocker is coming over this weekend, and we'll get the fuel and accumulator mounting plates installed.
     

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  23. anything else with the exhaust???
     
  24. You must have great neighbors!
    Git 'er done..........you've got to be on the salt this year!
     
  25. I'm your Huckleberry!
     
  26. I can't wait to see this thing on the salt!
     
  27. Buddy is Back! We're all ready to rock at Bonneville and get her down the salt! Time for everybody to be in 'High Gear' with a brick on the throttle pedal.

    Lets go set some records boys and girls! :D

    B&S
     
  28. Cool Dale......... go get em!!
     
  29. pops29
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    Ok I am back from a small vacation and now refreshed and ready to complete the new idler set up. Thanks Dale for modeling my design to spot any issues !!! I still think we need to get the supplies listed so I can have the trailer loaded and ready
     
  30. 38FLATTIE
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    Yep, I'm back, and I'm ready to rock and roll!

    Don, I hope the vacation was as relaxing as it sounded like it would be!

    Anyone that has followed this build knows we have some pretty lively discussions on how things should be done. Where the oil filters should be installed was one of those discussions.

    Traditionally, the filter goes after the pump, and before the engine, and that was the popular vote for the filter placement. In my industry, we place the filter before the holding reservoir/tank, so that we don't contaminate a 800 gallon tank. A pretty lively discussion ensued, with facts and opinions offered up for both placements.

    In the end, I decided that both possibilities had merit. I mounted twin Pall 3 micron filters on the return side, and we will have a Wix racing filter between the oil pump and engine.

    Thommyknocker and I worked on the oil accumulator mount, and the fuel tank mount today. Initially, they were going to be mounted with 1" angle iron. After looking at it, I decided on all-thread. Why? Because the mounts have to be removable, in order to remove the engine.
     

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