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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by skwurl, Jul 8, 2012.

  1. skwurl
    Joined: Aug 25, 2008
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    I have a 60 lincoln with a bad window motor. I would like to have it repaired vs buying a new one. Are there any rebuilders out there? Thanks sorry for the bad spelling the haet must be getting to me.
     
  2. 40FordGuy
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    At today's labor rates,..it may be less expensive to just buy the replacement.

    4TTRUK
     
  3. rld14
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    I also have a 60 Lincoln that needs a motor rebuilt. These don't exist new anymore either, used ones are $150 with a 30 day warranty... The one that I replaced went bad.
     
  4. rld14
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    Mark II enterprises in Cali has rebuilt ones for $150 exchange. Also the motor is used on 56-60 Lincoln and some Avantis if that helps. Also check the rubber motor coupler while you're at it.
     
  5. rustrustler
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    Years ago I replaced a t-bird motor with one out of a lincoln. I'd take my old one to a salvage yard and compare it to different ones in Ford products. The mechanism may be different but I believe the motor will be the same. Mike.
     
  6. . 90% of the time it's not the motor that is at fault. I like to leave the regulator in the car.

    on 60's fords you have to be careful removing the motor when it's out on the bench. don't try untill you remove the heavy spring.

    if you leave it in the car look on the door skin where the motor is mounted. you'll see 3 dimples that look similar to spot welds. drill all three out with a 1/2 drill and you will have access to the 3/8 bolts that hold the motor. remove the motor and you find three screws that cover the drive gear. take that cover off and I'll bet there are three round nylon blocks that are egg shaped and disingrated. the replacement gear is a different style and available at most good auto parts stores

    Ford, Tbird, lincoln and Mercury all used the same round motors. the wagons used the same motors in the tail gates with a different number of teeth on the drive gear.

    all the motors are the same with left and right drive gears being the difference. the two through bolt hold the gear in place. pull that head off and you can pull the armature out. chuck it into a drill press and sand it with a light emory paper. then gently clean the grooves out with a single edge razor blade and put it back together. I've never ran into one that needed new brushes. should work like new. those ford power window switches are prone to problems and can also be dis***embled and cleaned.

    I've done hundreds and don't remember ever having to replace one. back in those days things were not built as throw away parts
     
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  7. skwurl
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    I bought a supposedly good motor that was no good at all. I took the original apart. It has a ton of buildup where the brushes make contact. I'm gooan try and clean it up
     
  8. that's exactly the part that needs to be in the drill press
     
  9. rotorwrench
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    I've taken a few early 60s window & seat motors apart and after you peal the sealant off & open them up, you can still find evidence of corrosion. Brush springs corroded & brushes gone bad. There is no guarantee that the armature is sound either. If you have an old growler you can check them pretty well but if they are bad you would have to find someone who can rewind them & repair the comutators. Finding new brushes that will fit or can be made to fit is not an easy task either. Finding or makeing bushings to fit them is also a big factor. $150 is probably cheep for an overhauled part if you really put a pencil to it as long as there is at least a little bit of warranty for the rebuilt part.

    It might be easier to modify a later type motor to work but it would take a lot of research and consultation with someone who really knows these little motors to find the right donors for parts. Having a machine shop in your back yard would also be helpful.

    This was always one of the problem areas with the old cars that had all the electrically operated systems. They will nickle & dime you to death. I learned to buy simple cars to work on with all manual systems just to avoid this head ache. Let the rich guys play with that stuff. A nice little 29 roadster is next on my list. No windows that roll up at all is the hot smokin tip.
     
  10. skwurl
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    What part?
     
  11. rld14
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    This thread just gave me an idea...

    Guess what some digging found? Larry's thunderbirds has brand NEW squarebird motors for $149.95. And guess what? They look identical to what our cars use. I bet some shopping around would find them cheaper still.

    I think that searching for a squarebird motor is the way to go. I know that T Bird repro day/night mirrors can be adapted to our cars as well.

    Ever see how much an NOS day night mirror for a 58-60 Lincoln costs? You could repro them out of sterling silver for less.
     
  12. rld14
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