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working with rustfrei steel

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  1. ussrjeppi
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    hey i have the crazy ide to make an car body from rustfrei steel and want to know how it is working does it workharden or is it as easy as normal steel the car is mostly flat panels but some need hammering and bending is 1mm godd or should i use thicker material
     
  2. FrozenMerc
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    I think there is some translation issues here that need to be addressed. I have no idea what is available for material in Iceland, but here are some common American specs.

    First: Does rustfrei steel = stainless steel?
    If so, then you will want to use an austenitic stainless that has a low strain hardening rate. I would recommend Type 305 Stainless Steel, it has good cold working characteristics and is easily weldable.

    Second: Most American car body panels are made from either 18 or 20 ga. material. That is to say either 0.9 or 1.2 mm thick, so your 1 mm thick material should work fine. The thinner material will form easier, since it does not take as much energy to form it.

    What is godd???

    Good Luck.
     
  3. Think i got what he ment, yes it's about stainless steel what he's talking. (in german: rostfrei), and 'godd' should come out as 'good', so i think if you're building it upon a frame a gauge from 0,8mm to 1mm will be fine. but it's a bit harder to hammer than usual tin.. and for sure think of the right wire, gas or whatever to weld it.

    what's the project you're thinking about?

    Carsten
     
  4. stealthcruiser
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    In German, isn't it also known as "edel stahl"?......( noble steel).

    Just curious.Seems that's what I remember from my days living there.
     
  5. Guten Tag, Chuck ;) you're right about that, it is also called Edelstahl! always nice to hear from guys like you! appreciated!

    let's help this fellow to build his stainless body, let's see what he's planning!

    Guten Abend,
    :rolleyes:
    Carsten
     
  6. uc4me
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    godd is good
     
  7. ussrjeppi
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  8. i'm glad you guys know what you are talking about , as i don't have a clue
     
  9. Mr48chev
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    I'd say it would be entirely up to how good your stainless steel fabrication skills are. I spent a number of years working around guys who fabricated just about anything and everything out of stainless and what you can do with it is only limited by your personal skills and the equipment you have available.

    One thing, get stainless steel wire brushes to use on it (do not use a mild steel cup brush on stainless) and make sure you have new and correct grinding/sanding wheels/ disks that are not contaminated by mild steel.
     
  10. Relic Stew
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    It's about twice the cost of mild steel, and harder to work. It is tougher and harder, with more spring back, making it difficult to stamp complex shapes in a die. For flat panels, that shouldn't be an issue. Welding is more difficult as it has a higher thermal expansion rate, thus higher warpage. High carbon alloys will lose their rust resistance unless heat treated after welding, so if you're going to weld it, a low carbon alloy is preferred.
     
  11. Unkl Ian
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    Possible, but it will test anyone's skills.


    Delorian did it, Ford made a few cars in SS for the World's Fair.
     
  12. Good summary. Most stainless steel work hardens more than plain carbon steel. This makes forming harder and also the increased springback. Welding causes sensitization which is rusting along the heat affected zone; due to locally depleted chromium caused by formation of chromium carbides. The low-carbon grades have an L after, like 304L.
     
  13. CutawayAl
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    The work hardening issue also reduces fatigue life.
     
  14. ussrjeppi
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    i was thinking to rivet and glue the stainless steel together , do minumum welding just on the most vital parts of the structure this is after all a body sitting on a chassis.
     
  15. stealthcruiser
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    Rivets, yes...........................Don't know of an adhesive that will stick well to stainless steel.
     
  16. FrozenMerc
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