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Will you buy a car from a non-title state?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by B-Man, Aug 30, 2012.

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  1. Sure.

    98 vote(s)
    68.1%
  2. Hell no!!!!

    46 vote(s)
    31.9%
  1. Ohio is not that hard if you know the trick. Which is, to claim you lost the ***le and let them inspect the VIN and check their records the same as NY. Just omit that you bought it this week from a non-***le state. I know because I sold a car to a guy in Ohio and I emailed their BMV and asked. Here again it's not going to work on a big money, shiny, ready to drive car, but it will work on a project car.
     
  2. T

    Oh sureeeeeee !
    Hello Mrs. DMV dumb ***,
    I lost the ***le for this car I've never owned,
    can I have another please ?

    Ohio ***le is 100% positive proof of ownership!
    Period end of story

    You won't get an Ohio ***le unless there is proof that whoever you got it from owned it.
    Sworn affidavit from the seller is one way but there needs to be some proof to back up the claims on the affidavit.
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2012
  3. Truckedup
    Joined: Jul 25, 2006
    Posts: 4,660

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    Yes,My self and a friend have done the no paperwork NY thing many times.Not junkyard vehicles but older stuff bought with no paperwork.Like Rusty NYer says,you have to know the system,know how to be nice to the DMV clerk and works best at rural DMV offices.Stand up straight,normal appearance,look em right in the eye,some pleasant small talk but not much ****ing up.DMV has heard every story there is so don't try to ******** them.

    There can be problems of course like trying to do this on a 68 Ferrari ...and I hear the state gets su****ious of anything called a Harley Davidson..
     
  4. olskoolspeed
    Joined: Mar 2, 2009
    Posts: 476

    olskoolspeed
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    from Ohio


    ********. You can't lose a ***le you never had. They only duplicate a ***le that is already in the system - with the owners name/info already on it. Ohio is a major pain in the *** when it comes to out of state cars. Anymore, I won't touch anything without a ***le.
     
  5. I could if I believed that nothing on it could be traced back to a theft. Missouri is funny, some non ***le states they just look at and say sure everything is hunky dory and others they get real finicky about.
     
  6. Route 66 fan
    Joined: Mar 5, 2007
    Posts: 61

    Route 66 fan
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    Bought a 53 Chev out of Alabama a few years ago and it came with a registration and bill of sale from the dealer ... Texas DOT accepted it without incident and DPS inspected the vehicle to confirm VIN. It was very easy.
     
  7. b-body-bob
    Joined: Apr 23, 2011
    Posts: 712

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    I had to help a friend in Ohio get a ***le for a car he bought from a non-***le state on a bill of sale. OH wouldn't do it, so he thought Broadway ***le could get him a ***le, but they returned his application and check because they don't do business in Ohio.

    Since I'm in WV I took care of it by using Broadway to process the bill of sale into a ***le (IIRC it was from AL), then a state trooper came out and checked the VIN and hidden numbers, after that I was able to get a WV ***le and transfer that to the real owner in OH.
     
  8. rustang
    Joined: Sep 10, 2009
    Posts: 710

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    Not in Wisco, no way.... Was going to buy a sweet little rust free (and I mean totally rust free) '62 Falcon 2 door from a co-worker last year, Alabama car, no ***le, just bill of sale, and super cheap.....I ended up p***ing only cuz I've done the Wisconsin DMV missing ***le "circle jerk" before.....it totally ****s here.
    Tom
     
  9. Roger Walling
    Joined: Sep 26, 2010
    Posts: 1,149

    Roger Walling
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    Ma. has a thing about cars from Ny. It is a question that they ask.

    I suspect that someone got a hold of some old blank ***le forms that they don't use anymore and use them to ***le your car. It's just my thought, I don't have any information to back it up, but there is a guy that can find a ***le that matches your car and VIN from his collection of old ***les. ( For people that collect old copies of ***les and do***ents of course!)
     
  10. junkhead57
    Joined: Sep 17, 2008
    Posts: 235

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    In CT there are no ***les for cars before 1984. I have registered old cars & no ***le is issued. I can buy a car out of state go to DMV with all paperwork, ins card ,***le & they just throw the ***le away! -crazy! When I sell a car that goes out of state,I have a notorized bill of sale & a copy of the CT statuche do***ent that states the ct dmv guidlines. That helps with out of state dmv`s for the people trying to reg their cars. It is luck of the draw at any dmv.
    I sold 2 cars to 2 different guys in Cali recently with bill of sales & the doc. One guy had no problem,the other they broke his balls & then he called me & broke my balls! I simply explained all this again & said just go to a different dmv & give it a shot. He finally did & had no problems. Its crazy because there is no common system the states go by,its completely different from state to state. Luckilly here in Ct its not to hard. Its the ONLY thing that isnt.
     
  11. sunbeam
    Joined: Oct 22, 2010
    Posts: 6,395

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    In Kansas it's easy if the car is 35 years old
     
  12. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 32,501

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    I'm in Connecticut and a ***le has NEVER stopped me from buying or selling a vehicle.
     
  13. outlaw256
    Joined: Jun 26, 2008
    Posts: 2,022

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    well i live in alabama and im glad we are a no ***le state. ive bought cars out of barns, feilds and anywhere else you can think of. and not one had a ***le.ive never had a problem gettin tags for any of them. all they ask for is a bill of sale and the last registration. that part is almost imppossble. but some how we always get by that part. my daily driver is a 62 ford galaxie that a friend bought out of a barn where it had sat for over 20 yrs. no papaer work. nothing. i got a biill of sale from him took it to the dmv and the car. they checked the vin and binmgo i leave with tags.now sellin cars without ***les to other states , all we ver done is sign a bill of sale and give them the last registration papers we have and they leave. never had anyone call us back saying theres a problem
     
  14. 28hiboy
    Joined: Feb 2, 2007
    Posts: 404

    28hiboy
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    from Milton, Fl

    My roadster came from Ala. ( a non ***le state at the time, I think that changed but am not sure of the cut off date that they went to ***les ) Bill of sale and last registration was all I need for a Florida ***le, an had to have the numbers checked by DMV too. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. I do live by the state line, so it it common around here. I was thinking (there I go again) that all states honour other state laws. Yes, I have gone round and round with the clerks at the ***le office, but they were just covering themselfs. A 67 Camaro comes to mind. Sold from Ala to a dude in Florida and he sold it to me with out doing the paper work. DMV wanted me to have a ***le issued to the person I got the car from, then he would sign over a Florida ***le to me. That takes time and money, so I found the old Ala. owner and he signed over the paper work to me and we left out the guy that I got the car from. Went back to DMV the next day and got the same clerk again, she was pissed, but I had everything the law required. :)
     
  15. big bad john
    Joined: Aug 11, 2010
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    ...***le never stop me from buying a car from out of state
     
  16. Same thing here in Rhode Island...........***les are not issued or required for cars ten years old or older.
    Trying to get the old reg. is the issue.
     
  17. Elbopper
    Joined: Apr 29, 2012
    Posts: 109

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    I bought a 1937 Olds in Florance Alabama and a 1940 Chevy truck in columbus mississipi, din't got any problem here in Illinois.
     
  18. Rocky
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    In my state it's super simple....if you don't have a valid ***le, they won't issue a new ***le in your name...period.
    The exception is getting a bonded ***le but that takes 5 years to get.
     
  19. fiddychevy
    Joined: Aug 6, 2012
    Posts: 38

    fiddychevy
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    from pa

    PA is a *****,even with PA cars with no ***le
     
  20. 383 240z
    Joined: Oct 28, 2007
    Posts: 429

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    I'd buy as long as the price was reflected by the lack of a ***le. Just like a car that comes with all the chrome, and the same car where I have to hunt it all down. The more I get the more I'll pay. The '31 A coupe I'm working on buying, I'm willing to pay a bunch more since he has a current ***le in hand. Keith
     
  21. robyyo
    Joined: Sep 8, 2005
    Posts: 248

    robyyo
    Member
    from Orange CA

    Since I currently live in California there's no way I'd buy a car without a ***le, the DMV here is awful, just awful.
     
  22. vert1940
    Joined: Aug 10, 2006
    Posts: 395

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    another hell no from the state of ohio....any questionable paperwork at all and you are shot down in flames ....with a state troope knocking on your door
     
  23. diiulio
    Joined: Dec 1, 2006
    Posts: 47

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    I bought my coupe in VA which came with a ***le, registered it in NY and the NY DMV took the ***le, said 'thanks' and said I will receive a registration in the mail. You don't receive a ***le for older than '72 I believe in NY.

    Felt strange they took my clear ***le signed over from the previous owner and handed me back just a registration. Fortunately I made a copy of the VA ***le before going to DMV. NYS is strange and I am sure when I sell it if the buyer is from out of state they may question it, but there is no worry.

    I would buy a car from a non-***le state.
     
  24. B-Man
    Joined: Jul 17, 2006
    Posts: 125

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    This is one of the things I am curious about. And just to clarify, the car I am selling is not a project car. It's complete and drivable, with current AL registration and insurance. But, it does not, and cannot, ever have a ***le here unless Alabama changes the ***le laws.

    I totally understand that the price would have to be much lower for a car that CAN be ***led, but doesn't have one. The same rules on that apply for any state, I imagine. I know I wouldn't pay much for a car with no ***le, that should have one. Around here, that's a parts car.

    But, if you have a million-dollar AMBR winner, that is based off a pre-75 (or is it `73?) vehicle, it won't have a ***le in Alabama; unless it is ***led as "special construction" or something like that, which will make it a current year vehicle.

    I can see that a lot of people just wouldn't want to deal with it at all. But I was curious if some folks would see the price and think it was too high because of either, the h***le of registration in their state, or ***uming that it was a "missing ***le" situation instead of a "not possible to have a ***le" situation.

    I just want to cover all my bases and make sure the buyer doesn't have to deal with a bunch of **** if they buy a car from here.

    Thanks for all the replies, keep 'em coming.
     
  25. patrick66
    Joined: May 14, 2008
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    The tag agents in Oklahoma KNOW which states are non-***le states, and they know when you are trying to BS them about it. Several years ago, I bought a Georgia-registered car (no ***le required). When they did the VIN inspection, the car still had the GA tag on it, along with the registration. No problems at all!

    Guaranteed, they WILL run the VIN through the Oklahoma system to see where it came from. If you try to lie about the origins of that vehicle, chances are very good in OK that you will be nailed.

    Keep in mind, EVERY State's DMV (or equivalent) knows what states require ***les and which do not!!! All have a listing of this information, so all they have to do if refer to that list and they'll know immediately.
     
  26. patrick66
    Joined: May 14, 2008
    Posts: 4,780

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    The Oklahoma laws changed significantly the end of August. It is now a pretty big pain in the *** to get something un***led that's from a ***le state, ***led in Oklahoma.
     
  27. Gigantor
    Joined: Jul 12, 2006
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    For the record, sometimes the state in question is less than helpful in this regard. For example, I purchased a ***led car out of state. I jumped through all the hoops, paid the fees and filled out the paperwork in triplicate, but my state, which only reequires a bill of sale for vehicles over 12 years old, refused to issue a ***le for my O/T car as it was "too old to garner a ***le", regardless of the fact that I had the original ***le form the state I purchased it in and what if I wanted to sell it out of state in the future?! Now I don't have a ***le for a ***led car. ****tards.
    sorry, rant over.
     
  28. plym_46
    Joined: Sep 8, 2005
    Posts: 4,018

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    from central NY

    What NY is ticklish about is Sales Tax. If you low ball the selling or purchase price, they will give you a h***le because they wsnt thier pound of flesh. If your reported price is within reason, and you pony up the check to the tax folks everything is pretty easy at least for pre 72 iron. Unless you are dealing with a car on the Popular Stolen cars top ten. Then they make you have the car inspected by the half retired and half crazy troopers at an auto theft taskforce inspection station, and oh by the way they charge you $200.00 or so for the privilege of dealing with the fine folks waiting for their retirement, or working through their on the job disability claim there. Cranky ba$t@rd$ the lot of them.
     
  29. Merlin
    Joined: Apr 9, 2005
    Posts: 2,545

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    from Inman, SC

    South Carolina is one of the more **** states to deal with if you don't have a ***le or anything registration related. My vote hell no!
     
  30. For your poll to be accurate there should be a few categories,

    1 No ***le from a no ***le state
    1a with current registration and insurance (sure)
    1b no current registration. (PITA and costly so it better be worth it)

    2 no ***le from a ***le state. ( its parts and that's it)
     

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