Wasnt saying would stop better than anyones cars on this thread Was just refering to the guy i quoted. I think its great so many people rip on people who choose not to run front brakes but no one talks about all the stock model t's running around with mechanical brakes that usually dont stop very well. My car might weigh 2200 pounds with me in it and has a bunch of rear end weight with the 25+ gal gas tank and radiator all being in the trunk it stops pretty quick with just the aerospace brakes in the rear. My car went 10.90's at 126 mph in the 1/4 and i could stop it WAY before the first return road at a local track no problem without locking the brakes up. I personally have only seen one car i cared for with the bolt on 10 spoke wheels it was a street rod Not a big fan of them on any g***er Just my .02 cents
I'm pretty sure without hearing yours run and just looking at the pics that yours goes a hair bit faster than stock model Ts Simple fact, your car would stop faster with front brakes. Yes, you may not tailgate or ride people, but, you never know when that kid runs out from behind a bush chasing a ball. IF that ever happens, and IF you hit/kill that kid, and IF the cop notices your lack of front brakes, you WILL recieve a cool new orange wardrobe. Hope it never happens. FYI, I like the car.
The trick is to stop a car with NO front brakes when you are on a curved section of road. Stopping in a straight line, like on a drag strip is no big deal. When your front wheels are turned, is what you are not understanding. No front brakes on a street driven car is STUPID.
most hot rods brakes can't compete with a modern cars brakes.especially when only two of the four wheels have them. a modern cars system has been balanced out, tested and re-tested until it's as safe as it could be, and then put on the market for sale.we do alot of things for fashion first. like never installing front brakes. when model t's and a's were king, they all had the same advantage of having less that perfect brakes, but everybody had them. mix in modern super efficient brakes with so-so brakes theres going to be a loser everytime. i have a 1912 model t delivery car that has the brake in the transmission. talk about a disadvantage. it's as responsive as a ocean liner. my 1930 model a coupe has four disk brakes, but to me it's a hot rod. i want to improve how it drives and stops. my 64 econoline has torino front disks and will set it on it's nose if you like. i'm just saying those wheels everybody loves to hate are here for those want to have the thin spoke look, and run brakes. alot of you think that by running them we're some kind of posers. i've got two sets of 60's 12 spokes and decided NOT to run them for safety reasons. but hey, i live in los angeles area and it can get very wacky around here. if you've got open roads, go for it.
i'm not sure, i did'ent take this photo, it was sent to me after a gathering at the rosebowl in 2004 or 2005.
One of the funniest threads I've ever read that has gone off course into outer space. It starts with ET vs. Rockets, vertical vs. angled valve stems, spindle mounts vs. lug nuts, front brakes vs. no front brakes, g***ers vs. altereds, and finally somehow progresses into Droids vs. IPhones!
I don't understand all this talk about gasoline, front brakes and androids. Screw it, chutes are for stopping.
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Had a great weekend.... in the last 48 hours since I was last on here I see (4) pages of funny as hell posts...good to see that the conversation on fake spindlemounts has been busy...along with the "opinions" of the experts on the subject.... Myself, I've been pulling (2) all-nighters in a row....completely wired the truck, fired the freshend up motor at 2:30 am Saturday, made the first maiden voyage at 4am, had everything ****oned up by about noon. since then the truck has been driven about 50 miles, has made a trip to a car show, and has already driven in the rain...... Yeah, i'm super happy with my "g***er" with "fake" spindle mounts....it drives straight, no death wobble, and stops great with the disk brakes.....engine still runs pretty strong after 30 years in mothballs...even though I went through it last year, it is essentially the same motor run in a '55 chev as a street/strip car until the car suffered a fire many years ago... Now, blow it all back apart for body and paint over the winter.. Just throwing open the door for the experts to flame the g***er, 10 spokes, and radial tires.......
All I set out to do in my first post was to show the guy those wheels have no place on a traditionally built g***er. I would like to see you put a 4.6 ohc ford in a hot rod and say it's traditonal because it is a modern interpatation of the 427 cammer. Start a build thread and lets see how far you get. Just because they are called G***ER wheels does not make it right. Nobody said you can't buy them. Nobody said you can't like them. All we said is they are not correct.
My truck is not 100% traditional, but the newest part on the truck is the 10 bolt out of a '74 nova, the engine is a '66 327 block, the heads are earlier 461 castings. the cam a '70 LT1 with solid lifters, intake is an edelbrock RPM AirGap, and a street avenger carb, TRW forged 11:1 pistons, points ignition....no 4.6 or Coyote conversions here, great for an early mustang, but not a hot rod... The frame is a '39, and running all speedway axle setup.. Not 100% traditional g***er stuff, but close enough for me, best of all it is a blast to drive.... I thought hot rodding was still about building your own stuff, striking your own arcs, spraying your own paint, having something cool, and individualized, having what you built run good, drive safe, and above all have fun.....I might be wrong about this apparently....
you thought what?? you just need to buy all the things on a list and you're in!! but wander from that list and you're an outcast.
So Faux G***ers are lame, brakes are for pussies, people get their ******* in a bunch when history wasn't actually how they imagined, Dueces wears *******, Droids have misplaced valve stems aaaand Guys with rubber swords are in fact not cool or historically correct but actually ****s... got it, thanks.
funny thing, this isn't a generic hot rod site. You can try one of those if you don't like people spreading the gospel of traditional hot rods and kustoms.
I guess, right?...even more funny thing is this all started about et wheels, then spindlemounts..everyone seems to run some kind of non-trad wheel, which is OK in my opinion....The wheels on your Buick for example look great, but look also to be a 16" or 17" wheel....not traditional, but looks great... I'm curious how Mustang II front ends are essentially accepted here.... I'm aware they drive great, but were never around....wow... this could cause a huge thread shift.... LOL
^^^ Don't try to change the story now buddy. History can't be changed... It has already been written! ^^^ Im shocked...
Rustang, sounds like your a pretty well rounded and rational kinda guy. I too have been hard at work turning out stuff this week and my Plymouth should be ready rock in the next day of two. If you agree not call these "******** G***er wheels" I'll agree not to giggle and point at them when your looking! You might do a bit of studying and see what g***ers were really running, and someday that might change. II Funny, You stated my case better than I can. go twitchy, It's not about using or buying whats on the list, but it's definitely knowing what is correct and what is not, and how it should be used. This is how history becomes dilluted and disapears, because nobody cares enough to keep it alive. This is something that obviously isn't a big deal to you. I however, care enough. Lone star Mopar, As long as you got all that, good. 'Cept history isn't imagined, it's real. In our case, just look at the pictures. What others interpet it as in the future is what's imagined. Oh, and guys with foam swords are ****s! As a sort of post script to this deal, yesterday as I pulled into my space at So-Cal Phoenix's monthly swap, a nose up '56 chev pulled into the spot next to me. Pretty car, all accept, you guessed it, ET fake 12 spokes. I laughed a bit at the irony under my breath and went about my business. A few minutes later, one of my oldest friends, fifty year hot rodding and racing veteran Don Marks walked up, said Hi, and the following. "Nice car, all accept for those F*&^%!$G dumb ***ed wheels! Who in hell would do that?" He's not on here, and that was not solicited in any way, but I rest my case.
Agreed.... Just so we are all clear, I know exactly what a real g***er is.I may have been born in 1961, but the remains of the families old '55 Chev are still out back... this was not a straight axle car, but was 10% motor setback, Olds rear, early/fugly fibergl*** tilt front end... a long list of motors over the years...It was raced in the gas cl***es in the mid '60s to about '70, then street driven and bracket raced on and off until its demise....I will try to dig out some old pictures of it... not much left now but a frame... This is a truck I'm building for the wife, thus the disk brakes...I run the rockets for that reason, and I do know that they are not "******** g***er wheels"...never said they were in any shape or form....I've had the truck for 35 years, so it is not new to me...we can make that truce, you can't giggle at my wheels, I won't giggle at your patina (one of the things I hate, but some love).....I do respect your opinion, as you seem to be respectful, and don't come off sounding like an elitist tool....
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