help with new car 63 falcon convertable 300ci ?s

Just picked up this car the owner took it on trade and didnt know to much about it. It was an original 260 v8 car but now it has a 300? Strait 6 out if a truck. Theres no driveshaft shifter gastank and someone modified the quarters for bigger tires the floors were redone poorly but the top trim and interior are pretty nice. Its going to get lowered and driven as soon as i can get it running then im going to start on the floor/body. I need to talk to some people who have done the 300 swap and what shifter to run intake fan ect.. if my motor even is a 300 how can i i.d. it. I was given an 80s mustang 4 lug posi that im hoping will fit under the car. Any one know if theres a points style distributer for a ford 300? What year car/truck they come from? Sorry for all the questions excited about the new toy

 

dont look as good in person but i like it

 

doubtful that it's actually a 300, that's a tough swap to do. the 200 is more likely if the PO blew the shit out of the 260 and couldn't or wouldn't put another SBF back in it. anything's possible with a Falcon, though.
more pics, especially of the motor, would help more in getting you headed straight.

 

Shoot some engine picts and we'll see what you have. 300 aren't impossible to drop in these, but not common.

 

I too doubt that a 300 would fit in a Falcon with out major surgery. Also, the 300 had a different bell housing pattern from the 260, making the swap even more difficult. Here is a quick pic of a 300 to help you identify it. The scalloped valve cover is probably its most distinct feature.

Good Luck

 

If it's out of a truck it's probably a 300 but like 62rebel said that would be a really tough swap. It's been awhile, like 25 years since I've had a 300 but I think you'd have oil pan clearance issues, hood clearance issues, and maybe not enough room between the radiator and firewall. 300's are big and heavy. Great engines, but not what I'd put in a Falcon.
The 240/300 has a side cover on the left side of the engine. I don't remember the 144/170/200/250 having a side cover, but it's been even longer since I had one of those. The 240/300 uses the same bolts to hold the intake and exhaust manifolds. The 170/200 has the intake cast integral with the head. The 250 has a bolt on intake. The 170/200/250 were used in Falcons, Mustangs, Fairlanes, Mavericks....basically the unibody cars.
The 240 which looks identical to the 300 was used in full size cars. The 300 was used in trucks.
It shouldn't be too hard to find a point type distributor for either series engine from the mid 60's through around 76? when they switched to electronic ignition.

If it really is a 300 out of a truck you need to look at the trans. Some trucks and vans used a short tailshaft trans with a 2 piece driveshaft. Those trans will NOT accept a slip yoke. Get a driveshaft yoke and see if it bottoms out in your trans. If it does then you'll need to shop for a different trans.

 

Heres the only pic of the motor i have right now more tomorrow i have a auto trans from a v8 67 mustang laying around idk if it will fit or not. The motor looks longer than the 170i had in the 62 i just sold but im not sure i remember it was tight to the radiator as well im not real familiar with these ford 6s. Also does anyone know the stock shackle length mines got the ass up look i think from longer than stock shackles

 

Its probably a 250 which should move it just fine.a friend has a 70 torino with one and I was suprised how it runs.

 

Definitely not a 300.
If the intake is cast with the head it's probably a 200. If it bolts on it's a 250.
That's an ugly radiator hose.

 

Wasn't there a 240?

 

A 240 is identical in size as a 300.

 

What were the 200 and 250s out of? I didn't think it was a 300 but the guy seemed so certain it was. The kinked radiator hose isn't hooked up as is much of anything but I think I can get her going pretty quick I saved the 57 ford caps and new 14 inch tires off my old falcon and there going to look great on here I'm going to call the guy I sold my falcon to and see if he wants to sell the tank back as he's using it for parts. Anyone know a good car to rob a shifter from next time I'm at the junkyard?

 

Unibody cars used the 200-250.
I would guess a Falcon/Comet/Mustang shifter would work.

 

It definitely is not a 240 or 300----more than likely a 200 or 250. The 250 bellhousing is the same as a 289 or 302 and the 200 has a much smaller diameter one.

 

easy to spot a 250 because the water pump is larger and the deck height is higher than the 144-200 series. integral intake is common across the board for both series. 250's all had v8 sized bellhousings.

 

If you know what year mustang the rear come out of, it is a simple axle swap to get to 5 lug, and they are readily available if it is the 8.8 as I suspect. I didn't think the 200 or the 250 had EGR on them, but I have never owned one, so I could be mistaken. Nice score anyway...I got the new gas tank for my 63 from New England Mustang, but if they have cut the trunk floor up for the bigger wheels, it may not fit anymore. It drops into the hole in the trunk and bolts to the ledge around the hole.

 

Sorry to disagree, but trust me, a 250 has an integral head as well as the 200 unless iy's a South American or Australian engine.

 

I'll post more pics tomorrow after work I'm eager to know what I got so I can start gathering parts. The rear from the mustang I'm considering putting under it only cuz it's a posi 4 lug it's free and I figure it will be a little tougher than the factory rear it's out of a late 80s gt and luckily the trunks not cut and in really good shape unlike the floors someone hacked in

 

I do remember seeing some "built" 250's with bolt on intakes. Could be they were imported.

 

Hate to throw a damper on the fun, but that rear will be a bit too wide and the wrong bolt pattern.

 

Oh well stock rear will do then. Anyone got a parts car?

 

A maverick rear end will bolt in and and after 73 all were 5 lug.

 

That's definitely not a 240/300.

250 water pump has four bolts. The 170/200 has three. Cylinder heads on all US 250's are integral and don't unbolt. Hard to tell from that shot.

There is a later 80-81 200 with a block casting number E1BB that has a low mount starter and four out of six of the SBF bell pattern (top two bolts are different).

Aussie 250's will have a separate intake, but that's not what you have. The Fordsix.com guys have imported a lot of 250 heads and there is an aluminum aftermarket head available as well.

Maverick and Mustang rears will bolt in, but are just a tad wider than a Falcon (about 3/4", IIRC). Just enough to make wheel fitment critical.

 

I think that he meant that the intake was intergal and not the cylinder heads

 

The intake is cast to the head. Has 4 bolts on water pump I'm trying to upload pics but it's not letting me right now. A bigger problem is I think Somebody put some random leaf springs under this car or maybe has them backward? It looks like the rear is to far toward the front of the car and the leaf springs are hitting the rear subframe in the back they also look much much wider than my old falcon but that was a 6cly car any ideas?

 

The 250 is a little taller then the 200 on down motors and that is probably why it does not have a air cleaner.

 

Heres the pics judging from your guys description im pretty sure its a 250 now i need help with the leafs springs something is def. Wrong

 

Ya, I'd guess random leaf springs too. If I had a for real guess I'd say '65-'66 Mustang. New Falcon springs are available from several sources, and are 2" wide versus 2 1/2" wide like the Mustangs would have. Might be easiest just to go with new.

 

Makes sence they would be mustang they look wider and that's where the original 260 was said to have went to. He was a mustang guy. found a bunch of missing bolts for the front suspension I have to get now then start with the rats nest of wiring got one rim that's leaking around the bead I'll have to break down yet again

 

If it is a 250, it will be very difficult to get an engine driven fan in there.