Small block Chevy guys...what do I have?

so much about the engine !! Where's the Shelby ??? >>>>.

 

Or put it in something and pound the snot out of it!

 

those are some pretty special heads. pre-69 fuelie. no bolt holes. those are what people call the large camel hump heads. should be like 62 cc chambers. 2.02X1.60 valves. probably port matched to the intake being they have left and right stamped in them, thats not factory.

the block is old because of the short water pump. o-ringed with pop up pistons, there has been a lot of machine work done there. strange they didn't bore it though.

get the casting numbers off the block, on the driver side where the trans bolts up. probably starts with 397. look between the rocker arms for the casting number there. that will tell you what it started life as.

 

Not sure what cam it has....knowing him, it was hot and the best money could buy.

Yeah, I hear ya.....just don't know what I would put it in and when I would have the time to do that...

 

3970010 - std HD 350 block. Some are 4 bolt. See if you can get a photo of the casting #'s under the timing cover. This will tell you the nickel & tin content mixed in with the iron. Early 350's had 10% & 20% nickel

 

That to, But you can't argue that the living room isn't a good place to store engines

 

Some of you guys may be trying to make jokes. But things like this are serious. After all, this young man is a Ford Model T expert and knows nothing about late model engines like this engine. MrModel T did admit this Ford engine was in grandpa's '66 Shelby G.T. which also proves that it is indeed one of those special made Ford engines like I said.
In reality I believe he knows exactly what he has, besides a storage unit for cans and other junk. We just gotta narrow down the year and other minor details. I believe this particular Ford engine would look good in any shoebox Ford, Mercury, or maybe even a little duece coupe. Might even fit in a tri-five Chevy with a lot of work.

 

Living rooms are for Harleys!

At least I've got my wife into thinking that.

 

Actually Honda's and old BSA's fit well too. And Harley parts if you are sneaky! Them SBC's are awkward when using a cherry picker or three wheeled engine stand. I suppose if ya didn't have steps it would work.

 

ah yep the glasses helped... as you can see the split in the ring top left...11
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not early 60's... when did they do away with the breather in the back of the block under the intake and the hole that went with it? I used to know this stuff... now I guess I know different stuff.

 

Parts???

We ain't talkin' no stinkin' parts.

I have a sliding glass door that I put a ramp to and roll the whole bike in.

Yep, after almost 30 years the 'ol lady is getting use to it. She has even decorated it for Christmas in past years.

 

'67 was the last year for the block breather

 

I will do some more exploratory work when I get some time. I have been told a few times that it was a later block, but is nice to know it is actually a earlier block.

Lol! I do know about the late model stuff...I just prefer the pre-war fare I'm also NOT a SB Chev expert who knows all of there SB chev speed goodies by heart. That is why I have consulted the H.A.M.B. for help...

The all knowing H.A.M.B.

Sadly, the Shelby went down the road in about '84...around the same time the Chevy came out.

Grandpa bought the Shelby new is Dec of 1966..paid $3,700 for it with the trade-in of his '57 Olds. His Shelby was the ONLY one I have ever seen that didn't have two big Rallye stripes over the top....they were a $250 option.

I know the car still exits and is still in the Portland area last I heard.

 

So based on what you guys have seen in the photos....what are you thoughts on what the bottom end might be?

 

Purely speculation at this point.

 

True....guess that was sort of a stupid question...

 

I see a early oil plug on the block behind the water pump and it looks like a smaller harmonic balancer. It is a 327.
Guys already ided the heads

Id like to own that motor


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Not really.

But a crystal clear oil pan would help.

 

I know what it is......

Tell me you guys haven't heard this one before.....

It's a Corvette engine!

Be funny if it really was and we all know that anything is possible.

 

I want to know the date code on the block...it's to the right of the 3970010 engine code and below the distributor...it's usually a letter, then 3 numbers. This will tell you the year the block was made...I'll wait...

 

that doesn't look like small balancer to me. pull the flywheel and post a picture of the crank flange that will tell you 327 or 350 as they are different.

 

That 0010 block casting # means it started life as a 350. The only way it would be a 327 is if someone installed a 327 crank

 

Looks like an old tarantula intake to me

 

...and you can tell that by measuring the piston deck at TDC, turn crank 180*, and measure down for stroke.
First thing I would have done when the lids came off...

 

According to my cast number chart 1968 327 had a 3970010 <TABLE border=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>

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<TABLE border=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD>1968</TD><TD>3970010</TD><TD>327</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
69 302 also had a 3970010

Its all a guess what it is. Good luck

 

I thought I had that number...but I don't. The motor is in storage at Mom and Dad's...so I will have to swing by and take some notes.

Hopefully tomorrow night I will be able to get over there for you.

From what Cactus posted...it looks like both the 327 and early 350 Hi-Po blocks were numbered 3970010...or did I miss something?

I guess pulling the pan and flywheel might be the only way to tell for sure.

 

Correct sir!

That I can do....what am I looking for?

 

NastyZ28.com has a lot of small block info. On the right hand side of back of block by bell housing should be a date code. 4.00 bore block probably a 350 ( or a rare 327 or a 302 I believe in the '68-'69 years,...had a large journal crankshaft. I believe, I
could be wrong!...I been wrong before!) Early style though,..it has a bigger boss pad where the numbers should be stamped. Later truck and corvette blocks had a smaller pad. Also has the 1/8 pipe plug above timing cover. Guessing a four bolt main. Great block regardless being STD. Bore! Somebody spent some time o-ringing the deck! Heads also have a date code,...this will tell ya for sure! 462 castings came with 1.94 or 2.02 intake valves. Should be 64 c.c. Chambers...the whole package is a Big Score!

 

This engine without a doubt has 327 Chevy Camel Hump Heads. They are high compression and came on 327's, but they have been known to end up on 350's as well. Either way, this is an older style small block Chevy (evident by the valve cover mount location) with 327 heads... Here is mine I run the same combination with a weiand intake and 750 double pumper. I'll bet the engine you have is cammed to the hilt