This has pretty much turned into the usual HAMB pissing match with a bunch of garbage being spewed out, All this individuals that wanna be just like everyone else and ride the same bandwagon. I hope the OP steps up and takes the path less chosen, but certainly won't "Hate" him if he doesn't
The entire thought I have one question to ask - Is a pinto engine even the slightest bit traditional? knowing how we define traditional on the hamb. My coin toss for the OP was for the pinto engine, but the 305 at least has some cleanly traceable roots back to 1955
Yea but the 305 is built on a traditional concept. I got a basically stock 305 in the garage (not mine) that wouldn't pull an old sick woman off a bed pan. Its a smog motor for cry sake. It will run like a scalded assed ape when I got done with it. Does that make it better than a flatty (not on the option list by the way) or the Pinto motor? Nope, it is just another 4 cycle motor. I can make either motor run, not because I am exceptionally talented, I have just always been lucky with motors. The what are you going to do with it arguement is a non-issue as far as I am concerned. Even if it becomes a weekend warrior or even a full blown door slammer it is running in class, unless it is bracket raced. Durable? Either one will take you coast to coast if it is in good shape. In a light car the little cammer will even do it well. So it is all just a matter of choice which one you like the best.
Seriously not trying to rattle anyones cage but... I have one question to ask - Is a 302 SBF engine even the slightest bit traditional? knowing how we define traditional on the hamb. Your thoughts please. Because in a round about way, it has to do with the 2.3 question.
Well, by what the guys above are saying, Yes. It traces its roots back to 1962 when the 221 version came out. This is all gotten really silly - Run the Pinto, Run the Chevy , Fu@k, who cares
Run a Prius engine so everyone here hates you equally haha Jk. Posted from the TJJ App for iPhone & iPad
In 1968 the small block Ford was stroked to 3.0 in (76.2 mm), giving a total displacement of 302 CI (4.942L). The connecting rods were shortened to allow the use of the same pistons as the 289. It replaced the 289 early in the 1968 model year was this what you were asking? just checking, and the argument could be made that the 289 is the same engine just with some minor changes..so would we go back to the root of the 289?..260..221 to deem traditional Im asking , not stating Im not a Ford guy so my knowledge is limited, so please refrain from the flame
Same block basically as the 260. Sometimes were are pretty hard line on what is and is not traditional. I got a 355 that could have been built back in the early '60s with a stroker crank and a 327 block. It would not have been the same but it could have been done. so is it traditional or is it not? I don't think it is in the purest sense, but some will argue that in a non purest sense it is traditional because it can be traced back to the 265. The question at hand is not about a traditional engine at all. It is I have these two engines which one would you run given these two options. If it is about looks then either engine can be dressed to kill, the little cammer will be a little more difficult but it can be done. If it is about power then either engine can be built into a screamer, the banger will never make the torque of the small block but it can be made to run once you get the revs up. If it is about leg room, you don't have to move the firewall to get the small block in there and both will require room for the bell housing and transmission. In the end it comes down to which engine do you like. I like your attitude.
If you have a Ford run a Ford engine. I'm a Chevy guy from way back however most follow the SB Chev wave, go for the 4. What is traditional? Make up your own tradition.
If you are looking for a cool, comfortable driver, go with the Ford... Legroom and comfort mean a lot on a cruise.... If you want the added sound of a V-8 go with the Chevy... Good luck, Cheers.......
It still more fun than discussions about twilight and Jacob or Edward, and more productive than american graffiti 55 sparks or who would have won the race.
I think the 2.3 would kill the resale value. And i really like them as an engine but not in a traditional rod.
The resale value was a point that was just brought up to me about an hour ago by a friend... Definitely something to consider.
If you are building it to sell you better define your client base then choose what it is that they like. If you are building it to drive you should know this one simple concept, the only profit you make from a hot rod is in enjoyment.
Not building it to sell, but in reality it is something to take into consideration. I am self employed and if I get into a tight money spot and it either sell the hot rod or not make a house payment...
To answer from my personal perspective i would go chevy because that's what i'm most familiar with plus i really don't know anything about the 2.3 ford and for that matter most 4cyls. Don't care the least that "supposedly" "everyone" has one. But to answer from what i think is your perspective, i would go with what you like---in the long run if you factor in time/effort etc. it would be just as economical, and possibly more economical to go chevy. Consider it a wash either way. But it may be more useful to you---in terms of education, discovery and enjoyment to go with the 4 cyl. My vote= chevy. P.S. i think Ohio George had a special 2.3 that made 500hp or something.....?
Whatever you build will be worth more apart than together. That's why its cheaper to buy one already finished. If you want to make a small fortune building cars, you first need to start with a large fortune. If resale is a concern then stock is the only way to go.
If you want to make money on cars build them for someone else, don't build traditional cars at all just high end cars. I have an aquaintence here in town that builds high zoot cars for Football players and senators and the like for a living. he has put both of his kids through school, cash. Now his sone is running the shop. He build traditional cars in the basement of the shop for a hobby. The public never sees them except when he gets caught driving one.
500 HP? How about close to 1,000 !!! O/T car, but it shows what these motors can do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDlGmWHwnRA
i think this is the pinto in question: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...sg=AFQjCNFHlOgg189NA31d7tLsyyJie0UxzQ&cad=rja also, it was 2.0, not 2.3.
That's damn right. Perhaps not the most polite way to put it, but you have to admit he's right. 3) My theory is that Devotion basically already knows which engine he's going to run, but he is asking the question---if only to further solidify his choice and further fortify reasons NOT to run the other motor. Pure psychology here.
I tried to buy that car at the auction. I am pretty sure that was a 71-72 car, not a 74 as stated. The 2.0 was replaced in 74 by the 2.3. It also has the early style grille bumpers and aprons.
While your psychology is correct... This whole thing backfired! Now I'm more on the fence than before!
Don't be a sheep and follow all the others, Grow a pair and put that little Ford in it. You'll get more attention and have fun having something different. If you do put the Chevy in it, make sure you paint the car flat black with red wheels and white walls so you fit right in. or don't
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