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How do you correctly lower a Model A with PRE war parts?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by JTW, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. JTW
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    What does it look like when you lower a modelA with correct period parts? Ive seen modern underslung brackets, ETC... But how would I do it if I were looking at it in my shop in 1940? Do I use a 37-42 style car rear?

    As always Thank you Fellow HAMBERS... I love to learn traditional styles, and I think you older crowd is disrespected a lot... I would have given anything to ride in 1955!!!
     
  2. cadillacoffin
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    beings its a model a, if you still have the model a frame or are using a model a rear crossmember switch out the a spring to a t spring. on the front, drop axle and reverse eye spring. beyond that is going to require m***aging the crossmember to allow the springs to mount higher.
     
  3. Rickybop
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    And of course, a set of 16" wheels and tires.
     
  4. gwhite
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    Front suspension - 32-34 axle (1 3/4" drop), 32-34 spring perches (to maintain alignment for mechanical brakes), reverse eye spring (1" drop), #'s 2,3 & 4 leaves removed (1 1/4" drop) - total 4"

    Rear - Stock A crossmember with 1916-1927 8 leaf T spring - approx. 4" drop. If you need more rear drop you can reverse the main spring eyes or heat/bend the spring.
     
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  5. Rickybop
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    When did the "spring behind" rear axle setup come in? '41? That's still pre-war, but I doubt it got implemented until a little later.
     
  6. Carter
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    The spring moved to mounting behind the rear axle in 32.

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  7. JeffreyJames
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    I like gwhite's answer. That seems to about cover it since guys really didn't start dropping axle's to 4" until late 40's.
     
  8. Rickybop
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    Thanks, Carter. Proof below. I couldn't remember...obviously. So the '32 thru '41 rear suspension setup would be an option if you move the Model A crossmember rearward.

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  9. zibo
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    You can flatten the front crossmember a little too.
    Easy to get 1" lower for a couple hours work.
    TP
     
  10. fiftyv8
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    Also take out a couple leaves out of both front and rear springs.
    Usually two out works OK.
    Take them off the top for starters, may get a 3rd if you like the ride soft...
     
  11. Chris
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    On my old A roadster I used a T spring out back, and reversed the eyes on the front spring and took a couple leafs out. It lowered it to what i thought looked very period for pre-war
     
  12. JTW
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    Awesome answers, yes, I actually have a nice 35, I believe that is under slung, but it would require some cross member movement. Yes I've got several sets of the 16 from 35 Ford, but I really would like to stay with the original tallies! Got several T springs as well. I knew about the reverse eye deal and flatten out cross X. Rear was the concern. Like I said, I don't want a big O drop axle in the front. Another question... Did they speed hole the wishbones, visor, front axle... Etc, or will that kill the look? Real 32 grill shell I ***ume had to be shortened by 2" to run hood, and Zepher dual down draft. I guess technically drop axles were not really implemented utile post war?
    Thank you gentleman.
     
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  13. Murocmaru
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    In addition to everything mentioned above, an old timer told me that before the war, they used longer spring shackles
     
  14. wbrw32
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    This was for the rear only....and watch for side movement on corners,,or install a sway bar. I ran 6" shackles on my 39 cpe back in 1952
     
  15. V4F
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    reversed eye springs with leaves taken out , 4" drop axle .
     
  16. Chris
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    Can't on a model A, the springs are over the axle. Any longer shackle then stock and the spring will hit the axle.
     
  17. Chris
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    Here is my old roadster: 32 front axle, reverse eyed spring, couple smaller leafs removed. On the rear, it was a T spring with one leaf removed. Nothing post war about the car.

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  18. manyolcars
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    reversed eye springs with leaves taken out---of the rear???
    Do the tires hit the rear fenders?
     
  19. Chris
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    This is my old coupe. Same as above roadster, but it had a dropped axle...so it could not technically be pre war. A's are pretty easy to lower if you don't want it slammed.

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  20. manyolcars
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    Does the bent spring pictured work OK? I have one on my A and suspect it causes my steering problems
     
  21. Chris
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    I have one under the rear of my 34 roadster and it drives fine.
     
  22. manyolcars
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    speed bumps cause my A to turn left and I feel sure all the front end is correct and in good condition
     

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  23. brokenspoke
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    You got some bump steer
     
  24. Chris
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    Yep, shorten the pitman arm.
     
  25. JTW
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    That makes sence about the leaf removals. I gues same ol question, so A stock axle with like a 2" drop is definately.. post, or is kinda iffy, or completely out as they did not do it? I would say for now Im leaning tword stock wheels white walls, Fender-less, HC head, ZEPHER dual intake, with dual Y header. The only thing I am going to do, because its hidden, and for drivability sake.. I will go ahead and add a 12V harness. BUT I will go with cloth correct wire wherever it is in view. Now when did the aftermarket dizzy come out for the A, is that pre or post.. SIGH, like I said I am so used to post that I dont have to be this picky about parts.

    Thanks guys
     
  26. JTW
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    i like this!!!
     
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  28. OoltewahSpeedShop
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    Yep, this is great info and all in one spot. Thanks guys.
     
  29. JTW
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    Any one else? got some pics?
     
  30. Mr.Musico
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    is a 36 axle an option? Seems like it has about a 2" drop, or is it the same as a 32-34?
     

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