DIY Spray On Chrome

if you go back and read marvin tells you about the yellowing---he adds ''purple hue'' to make it look ''right''

 

Yess, I know hot to made it bright mirror, but i want to know why it is yellow? In witch chemical is problem?

 

first, I cant see the pic, fix that first, second, home made or DIY silvering chemicals are a inconsistency nightmare, that is if you dont have a automatic mixing robot doing it for ya, no mix will be 100% the same as the one before, you are lucky to have made it to the silvering stage, for these issues thats why I use premixed chemicals from AngelGilding, they do it for you.

now why the yellow? its the nature of the beast, you have to deal with it, what I do is I offere color chrome at discount price, and when they say they want a realistic chrome look I use a violet tinted clear coat

 

Hi Nicamarvin, how I read here U are master for this stuff!
If U cant see images click here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pvfiwzevvy33nbc/hD0OCM6RKH

Today i try again! The biggest problem for now is missing wetting agent! I buy from AngelGilding set with all chemicals, but they are on the way now! So I have lot of free time at evening and lot of silver ha ha!

Yesterday I get from garage damaged car`s front bumper! Cut it for pieces and spray on ground color, work with 400-500 sandpaper and spray on acrylic 2k black glossy color.
AND of course forget to clean and wet coloring table AND rubbish fly on my color

Ok, its for test only and some place stay glossy

p.s. forget to foto base color!

Chemicals i mixed by my self in my "underground laboratory"

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How u see, the base color is really bad , but this is not my target for now, I know how to do it right, but I`m to lazy to so much sand surface and make it glossy, because for now i only testing my chemicals and activator.

There is some foggy in some places and corners is bad, because wetting agent is missing, and i cant wet surface so good, to make a good film and later wash it off!

In images u cant see, but really color is little golden.

Ok, there is video

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and second piece

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Pictures and video is poor quality and seems taken with dead cat ass I will take my Canon camera to garage some days!

Nicamarvin sad, that it is not smart to to mix chemicals at your garage, but.... for me it is really smart! Why? I have looooot of silver and I easy can made +/- 20 L of concentrated silver nitrate! Al other chemicals I have for few years Why i need to buy them for 200$ every time (150+50 shipping). And chemicals are not so sensitive and u can easy every time make mistake of 0-0.5g and it will be nothing! I said, my formula is a little different.

For now i waiting chemicals from USA and than i will have some base, what i need to get and i will mix and mix and mix i will get that same! I hope so :

For now i really missing wetting agent, because i stay mad with wetting surface

I hope that i continue post my progress!

p.s. sorry about my English, it is terrible, I know it

p.s.s my girlfriend hates me these weeks, because she see me only in the mornings, because at the day i am at my basic work (white shirt), and all evenings and nights at my garage with my respiratory

 

And forget...

I see that in all videos all use hairdryer, but i haven`t at my garage hairdryer and i use construction dryer with high T`. And i heated up surface very well! And i note, that after construction dryer silver stay much stronger and it is harder to scratch it than without construction dryer use

 

This is an excellent thread! Thank you Nicamarvin for this thread and your tutorials they are absolute gold for anyone who is wanting to get into chrome spraying.

I have got some chemicals on the way from Angel Guilding and will be testing them as soon as they arrive.

Sudzhis would you be able to elaborate more on your own chemical mix?
Im intrigued

 

The main chemical is silver nitrate! It is powder and u can easy make it at home! All other chemicals i`m testing! I have 4 types of reducer and silver liquid! I cant say witch is better because i haven`t any professional spray on chrome chemicals! When i get them (i hope so next week) than i just make at least 10 identical surfaces and on two of them i spray with chemicals what i buy, but on others my underground laboratory chemicals If they will be something like this, i maybe write what is what

 

I have some silver nitrate I have had a little dabble with Silver Nitrate, Ammonia ,sodium hydroxide, and dextrose as the reducer but with no success.

Going to try the Angel Guilding stuff soon but it would be nice to find a way to mix my own chemicals to make the cost more viable for business, importing from america is not cheap and all the availiable UK systems are to expensive.

Good luck with your experiments sudzhis please let us know how you get on.

 

If all would be so easy, everyone would make it at home, not buy There is a little more chemicals to do it right and very big deal there takes- right proportions I worked on that long time, to get progress!

 

Today I take photos with normal camera!

Some dots on surface is snow!

CocaCola can are coated with tinted lacquer , but other parts no

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Next piece to base coat! at this time i will do it right

 

hi sudzhis
great finishing, the coke can looks good too. can you tell us what is the formula you using and the mixture of the formula? i want to start this business too. but some other guys tell that this is not long lasting enough. how we deal with this issue?

great chrome..

 

Good work Sudzhis!

 

I dont finish my formula for now! This is only progress! When i get 100% clear silver, without golden shadows, than i will say, that i know this formula! for now I work on it!

For now this is my hobby and not the business, but maybe will. Almost all said that it is impossible to make good formula without professional chemistry laboratory, but I want to prove another and this is my engine for now!

I said, maybe i will write my formula here to make much easier life for all Maybe not, will see!

 

ahahaha, well we hope you can share with us here soon. yup all we can do now is try hard to get the perfect formula. what i meant is some people say this is not long lasting enough is, the chrome get yelowish over time and the chrome dont look chrome enough after several weeks even days. i dont remember where i red but some consumer get their chrome back to the workshop because the chrome gone bad after several days. the chrome does not looks chrome like the first day.

 

Hi for everyone!
Yesssssss, today I get perfect silver color, without golden color and really good mirror. BUT is again problem problem is that, that in some places in silver is like foggy, like white clouds! Ahhhhh, but why! Reaction is in good speed, all is good, but if u spray to much u get clouds. I mixed my formula thats same, but change some reducer proportions, its mean problem is there. Tomorrow i will try again.
And, for all i can say be careful with dish washer, i think some golden shadows make dish washer,because it is impossible to wash it 100% off!

Sorry, I don`t take any pictures, to tired

 

Hi!
My own formula is 99% done! Maybe some variations with chemical proportions and thats all! It seems this forum is almost dead! bye.......

 

pics?

 

I dont take any pics today, maybe tomorrow! But all looks good, bright mirror, not yellow or dark!

I have problems with test objects, I will try to color some tomorrow and later spray on silver aigain!

 

Im still here mate

looking forward to some more pics

 

Had a little go with the Angel Guilding chemicals today, done a couple of small test pieces.
I followed Nicamarvins instructions, the stuff worked first time
Chrome was a bit yellow and the finish wasnt perfect but what can you expect on the first attempt.
I didnt do no topcoating as I havent got any candies yet, just wanted to see if I could get chrome.

 

Pictures will be! I`m still waiting for Angel Guilding chemicals, and a wetting agent more than other, because i dont know how to make it h ha
I have still some problems with Tin, its maybe my Sn2Cl is almost dead. It works, but not so good! maybe proportions is wrong!
I will buy new one!
I think maybe tomorrow I will take some pictures!

 

Angel Guilding Tin for silver is 2% Sn2CI if that helps

 

Hmm, its mean on 1 litter 2 grams SnCl?

 

WARNING, I had some inside door panel trim done for my car with this exact same process. It was six different peices and they turned out excellent, they really looked like chrome.
The first few car shows I was showing them off and telling everybody. But, my car is a convertible and the parts were in the sun at the shows.
In no time at all the parts turned to a yellow gold. I had to buy new parts, have them chromed with the old, tried and true process.
I still don't have my new parts on yet because it is quite the tear-down process, I have to take out most of the interior.

Sometimes its better to do it right the first time.

 

do u tint top coat (lacquer) with blue or violet tone?

 

Thank you, that's why I sent my stuff out to get chromed, find me one person for whom this has worked out in a real setting with real life longevity.

 

Of course real chrome is much better but, if the part is too damaged, rusty, with holes? What then? I have bike fuel tank! 60 years old, rusty, with holes, not straight! It is almost impossible to get OK this tank with tin! Way to go- silvering!

 

Did silvering get rid of the rust holes, no? The holes are still there, what did you fill them with, fiberglass? There's a right way to do things and a wrong way, your way is wrong, it's putting lipstick on an ugly girl, the lipstick comes off and the ugly girl resurfaces.


You have pages and pages on this topic and I've yet to see any success in any of it. My friend lost his shirt on the Spectra Chrome system, I'm not sure it can ever be perfected, when it is I'll give it serious consideration.

 

Your right that is mean

But..

1ml H2o = 1 gram

That would be 2 grams SN2CI to 98 ml H2o

So that would be 20 grams SN2CI to 1 litre