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Stolen hot rod in florida

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Don's Hot Rods, Oct 23, 2012.

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  1. autobodyed
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    from shelton ct

    looks like HOT TURKEY'S in some hot water. thanks for the link ryan.
     
  2. KoolKat-57
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    CRIME DOESN"T PAY!
    Sorry for his daughter, he used her too, for sympathy on this board.
    A true shame.
     
  3. bamaheel
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    Well, they did a voice stress test but they didn't do a body cavity search?!?!?!?

    So ...........
     
  4. If its ageed value insurance then he had an appraisal by a "professional" appraiser. The appriaser should be tucking his tail right now. The appraiser should be able to tell a real steel from a replica.
    But if the dude did what they expect him of he deseves what he gets. I was feeling sorry forhim and his family.
     
  5. Kustom292
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    The body may be real steal and because it is not numbers matching they would say that it is a replica. I dont like that it looks like he lied but I think that the car will surface in short order from some hiding spot.
     
  6. Larry T
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    Looks like a large part of his problem is the car not being ***led correctly.

    I'm glad no one else around here would do anything like that.
     
  7. Dooley
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    from Buffalo NY

    I know a ton of people who would have an issue with how their cars were registered, if something like this happpened.... but it will be interesting to see how this plays out
     
  8. NortonG
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    So whats a guy to do if he builds a car with found parts fron numerous cars and ***embles them if this sets a presidence for "***embled" vehicles?

    I say guys in Florida need to check with their insurance companies to make sure they aren't going to get screwed if anything ever happens to their cars.
     
  9. Nads
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    from Hypocrisy

    yeah
     
  10. flatheadpete
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    from Burton, MI

    I'll second that.....
     
  11. k5hart
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    Wow! Didn't expect that. I'll be interested in how this plays out.
     
  12. chopped
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    So when I lived in Fl. my 36 Chevy with Nova clip and later model engine gets me put in jail?
     
  13. Go read the build thread, it is a gl*** car with firewall and cowl vent switched.

    Interesting twist, thanks for the link Ryan.
     
  14. Made us all look like turkeys, that guy. Something tells me he won't be eating much Christmas pud this year.
     
  15. My guess. The car is in some 24 hour rental storage unit and has been there for five to six months. Probably drove the car there and took a taxi home. I think he planned to bring the car back from the dead in a couple of years.

    Yes, I watch CSI . I can not believe that ABC reporter Diane Sawyer did not realize that all reality TV shows are scripted from Dancing with the Stars to Storage Unit auctions.

    Hi Tman
     
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  16. Tommy R
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    Exactly. I read all the charges and thought how some of those issues could very easily apply to many of us. Such as ***ling a 'gl*** car as a '32, considering a "rebuilt" motor as "new", etc.

    Of course, if he claimed it to be steel or claimed to have purchased a brand new motor, that clearly changes things. Several of the things going on here are really fishy and it's certainly incriminating, but some sound like they could affect many of us who aren't criminals or have any criminal intent.
     
  17. dad-bud
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    Innocent until proven guilty - isn't that the law?
    It was a hot rod - do the Fla DMV have a category for a traditional built 32 highboy coupe with a 302? I'll bet the numbskull behind the counter wouldn't know a tudor from a coupe, so it got registered as a 32. Now they're acting like he's an arch-criminal for registering a 32 Ford as a 32 Ford. Unbelievable myopia to try to reach a reconceived conclusion.
    As for the insurance - that's a minefield.
    Insurance for hot rods is a very well known industry - the insurance company would know that a hot rod is built from parts from various cars - every hot rod is, or else it's just a restored car! Insuring it for $70K is between him and his insurer. If they didn't believe a 32 Ford might be worth that much, they should have investigated the car before writing the policy.
    Now, asking about scenarios for buying back parts from your old car isn't a tick in the right column, nor is a friend saying he had been talking about insurance fraud.
    Obviously, I don't know whether 'he did it' or not - I'm hoping that the cops and teh newspaper have got it wrong. I fear they may not have.
    Cheers.
     
  18. flatheadpete
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    from Burton, MI

    Now we know.....
     
  19. K13
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    The article say he "forged a bill of sale" for the motor these are not things he mistakenly overlooked. Way too many fishy details for this to be a case of he didn't know what he was doing when he registered the car IMO.
     
  20. I bet he's keeping it in a pay-as-you-go storage unit somewhere. That's the only reason to explain why his friends "haven't" seen it. I bet if the cops check his bank statements, they'll find a payment to a storage facility somewhere.
     
  21. oldsmobum
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    Is your 36 chevy fibergl*** and on a tube ch***is? How would a fibergl*** body and a tube ch***is, both made in the 2000's, qualify it as a 1932 anything? It isn't any more of a 1932 ford than your Chevy is, other than cosmetically. Come on guys, lets be serious.

    This could go beyond the ***le fraud. It looks su****iously like it was ***led as a 32, to redeem a higher insurance claim. I really hope that none of this is true, and that it can all be cleared up, because it broke my heart to read this thread as it developed. The curious thing will be to see if Hot Turkey comes back on when he can, and tells his side of the story. I would think that if he doesn't have the guts to face us, we can ***ume he is indeed the ***hole they are making him out to be.
     
  22. budd
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    70,000 seems high, but i can see how this could happen, there are tons of pics of his shop on the build thread, figuring out how best to break in would take little more effort then an hour on the build thread, i'm betting every person involved was told they could see how he built the car on the HAMB, the insurance, the apraiser, the cops, it would have to be the worst attempt at fraud when you post pics online for all the world to see then out of the blue start telling people its a real 32, i'm holding out faith its just a bunch of non car people screwing this up for him.
     
  23. richie rebel
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    you mean this guy has been ********ing us all this time, you got to be kidding me??????
     
  24. Florida Governor Signs SEMA Street-Rod/Custom Vehicle Bill Into Law

    Florida joined the growing list of states to enact SEMA-model legislation to amend the vehicle ***ling and registration cl***ification for street rods and create a cl***ification for custom vehicles. The bill was approved by the Florida State Legislature and signed into law by Governor Charlie Crist.

    Under the new law, a street rod is defined as an altered vehicle manufactured before 1949 and a custom as an altered vehicle at least 25 years old and manufactured after 1948. Importantly, kit cars and replica vehicles will be ***igned a certificate of ***le bearing the same model-year designation as the production vehicle they most closely resemble.

    Florida joins Arkansas, Colorado, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, Rhode Island, Virginia and Washington as states that have enacted similar bills into law.
     
  25. what a douche! So many kind people wasted their time on here... shame. I just hope if this happens again but legitimately, people will gather round to support the victim without recourse to cynicism owing to this chump!
     
  26. Larry T
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    Texas has the same law, but the ***le is designated as "replica" (I think).
     
  27. 32-3 WINDOW
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    i think there are a lot of us that have built cars , from parts , and it is good to do a build album , take pics of the ch***is, and motor #s also the body parts , here in utah you can apply for a reconstucted vehicle and the d.m.v. checks this all off even having the henry frame and factory ***le with a gibbons body they will do***ent and then you do***ent with your insurance and apraiser, and all the add-ons to declair your value , then if something like this goes down you have the paper trail, and others that have signed off on this , this is a said day for he and his family , and especaily his young daughter , man this didnt have to happen , and at christmas
     
  28. K13
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    Like submitting a forged bill of sale for a new 302 engine when you have posted on the internet that you got it for free:rolleyes:
     
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  29. Dooley
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    from Buffalo NY

    Reading the build thread, and re reading the link Ryan provided, I am dumbfounded on why he would forge smething saying he had a new 302 when it appreared that the parts list for his "free" 302 would be close to what he would be claiming, unless he is claming a $10,000.00 new motor....usually it costs more to rebuild a motor than to buy one.

    The other ***le stuff can be easily explained, and I kinda wonder about the lever that needded to be adjusted before driving it....was that in the build thread?? I'll have to look...

    could it be that it was stolen and all they are doing is hammering him for a fraud: ins and ***le? i dont know
     
  30. I don't have time to read all the latest on this right now,
    I will tonight.
    But I don't like the way it is looking from the bits I just read.
     
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