Stolen hot rod in florida

just my thinking the lever might be a three window saftey door switch , it has to be activated to light the fire "to speak" i have them in my 32 and 34 as you know the old saying suicide doors

 

Ya know the one thing that gets me is how they say it was put together from several cars and not a real car.......what about those that take a cowel, and build a car from there, ya know say I have a 34 cowel, then I buy a set of doors for a 3 window, then I buy a pair of new 1/4's and I build the roof section with a planishing hammer and my blood sweat and tears.....now in my opinion I have a 34 ford 3 window coupe, what is your opinion? But more importantly if they get to investigating it what is the opinion of the insurance company and the opinion of the police, how do you convince them that what you have is a 43 ford and not something you put together for insurance fraud? Jim

 

It would be interesting to know if he had an original title and matching numbers on the frame???

 

Not true I have three agreed values policies right now with no appraisals. You just send pics and descriptions and they insure it.

 

I know several 32 owners, and a couple of them that I know have replaced their old modified rails with new repops.....so alot of them dont have the numbers any more.... now these that I know of, they still have their original frames but I can see how one could get seperated..Jim

 

Just read the entire thread, very interesting, just like the reality TV shows.

He should be banned from the HAMB and all his threads deleted....

 

I agree, I have been in trouble with the cops before, and I was in the right, but it cost me alot of money and alot of time to prove it, so I am not really believing any of this yet, I just dont get why they are trying to say its not a real car, I know the thread, but I still think that car is worth what it was insured for. I would not give that for it, but if it were sitting at one of these car dealerships that is what it would be priced at and we all know it. Jim

 

Innocent until proven guilty.

 

I agree, how quickly everyone went from supporting this guy to throwing him under the jail. Let's wait and see what happens before stringing him up huh guys?

 

The fact is that there's way more than $70,000 of labor alone in the car, if you're gonna commit fraud 70Gs is hardly worth the trouble.

The one thing we can all agree on is that we have to be very careful about getting our cars properly titled and documented.

 

I would guess the vast majority of automobile insurance fraud is for a lot less than $70,000.

 

I feel like I am in a freakin' hen house here with all the clucking and cackling going on. Wow! Chill out ladies! You all can speculate till the cows come home and then some!

 

True, I guess if one is desperate enough, I know Dave, he doesn't seem like the type of person that would do something like this.

 

Oh my god. I guess this has taken a different turn.

 

Wow....just wow

 

I hope Dave is cleared of this, and he did nothing wrong. As for the rest that want to lock him up a throw away the key for building a car from parts, and using the laws on the books to title it.

Because as we all know, all police investigators (and online newspaper editors) are completely versed in the laws concerning hot rods and older vehicles and would never take the easy way out by taking the insurance company's word over the owner of a stolen car in the #1 state in the union for insurance fraud.

 

Guess I'll add mine.....

Those investigators aren't stupid. Dude stole his own car. It's in a storage facility somewhere OR it's scattered in pieces. If it's scattered pieces, I bet someone else is in on it too. Hard to disassemble one and scatter it without someone helping or knowing somewhere along the way.

Everyone here always talks about what should be done to car theives if they're caught.... Looks like this one got caught.

I just feel sorry for his kid. Christmas with Dad locked up....

JH

 

Thats a tin pole building, looking back at the old thread I see a dozen spots you could pop the tin loose and slide through. I'll reserve judgement.

 

OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!! I am in absolute shock. This whole thing smells, not so much that I think David is capable of something like that, but more about how the car was "fraudulently" titled. Let's face it, 99% of our cars are far from original, ranging from just an engine transplant, all the way up to being a ground up build from swap meet parts.

I think too many people are passing judgement on him already, an arrest does not automatically mean you are guilty, it simply means the police THINK you are guilty and that has to be proven in court. This isn't some 3rd world country where they have Kangaroo courts, we have due processs.

I will withold judgement until more comes out and he either confesses or is found guilty in a formal trial. Until that time none of us have the right to prejudge anyone. How would you feel if you were arrested for something like this and you were innocent ?

But WOW, I really didn't see this coming and think a lot of us need to contact our insurance companies and review our policy information and how they view our cars.

Don

 

If he had it insured for $70,000, he paid the premium. He sure could be innocent. Let the jury decide.

 

Sounds like it could not be sold with the title that he had for it.

I wonder why anyone would create a false bill of sale for the motor to make it look like a crate engine?

Lots of unanswered questions.

 

You can buy and sell that car all day long in South Dakota and it would not raise any eyebrows with the DMV, it is kosher here.

 

Did it ever occur to anyone that this is a"put up"deal by HT and the police to flush out the real thieves?
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

 

He's NOT in jail, he was released the same day. This is what's wrong with this thread now. People shooting from the hip without reading or knowing the facts and posting bullshit theories.

No one posting, so far, KNOWS what ACTUALLY happened. We weren't there and none of us are the cops or the insurance company. As for the owner coming here to tell his side, why would he explain his side to a group of wanna be cops and insurance agents.

Does it LOOK bad? Yes. IS it bad? NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION.

Jeebus, someone gets a cut and the sharks come out in full force.

 

I have written a fake bill of sale for an engine in the past as our state you have to have a bill of sale for the engine, one for the frame and one for the body to get a builder title, so when I was building a car about 20 years ago and was using a engine I had at the time I had to have a bill of sale for the engine that I already owned, no way around it, stupid law, so I just wrote my own. That might be the case with his car, he might have to have one for each part to get the title. Jim

 

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its not that its not a real car, its just not a 32 ford. it was titled as a 32 ford, which it is not. that is fraud and punishable by law.

why do you think that there was a sticky not so long ago which essentially forbids the discussion of 'historical documents' and 'titling'. Ryan wants nothing to do with liability or the sharing of information on committing fraud.

does not matter what the actual or agreed value is, it is not what it is represented as. the state of Florida took exception.

 

They sold me the whole seat but I'm only using the edge!... O.K. not really I think if I was in his position I would appreciate the benifit of the doubt.

 

Al capone was put away for tax evasion.....same thing going on here - they cant find the car so they're putting pressure on him with other charges. I doubt this will mean anything to how "we" title our cars....