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8" Ford Rear

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Good Wood, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Good Wood
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    I'm desperately looking for a third-member for the rear in my '31 Coupe. I'm told it's out of a '56 Ford p***enger car. It's an 8" w/28-spline axle shafts.
    Please let me know if you can help, or point me in the right direction. I'm trying to get back on the road, but don't know where to turn except here. Thanks a lot............Woody
     
  2. a 1956 ford rear end would not be what we call an 8 inch rear

    can you post a picture so we can identify what you have?
     
  3. RDAH
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    49 to 56 have that not very strong yoke, but I haven't broke the one in my 54 Merc.
    I used a 74 Ford Maverick in my 31 Model A. These are 8" and good for up to 300 HP.
    I know guys have used 8" rears out of Ford Granadas also. Both are narrow.
     
  4. Idaho/Dave
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    Call your local wrecking yard, a 8" or 9" third member (punkin) should not be that hard to find, around here you can buy the complete rearend for 100 or so , if you get stuck and really can't find a 8" PM me I have 2 a 3:00 and a 2:73 non posi I'll give you a deal on but the shipping will kill you.
     
  5. rustang
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    Just note, 8" stuff is getting more expensive than the 9" stuff... if it came out of a '56 it is not an 8"....

    As noted above, if you post a picture, we can ID the unit you have.... I have probably a dozen 8 and 9 inch center sections and might be able to fix you up...

    There is guy out of Boothwin PA that will build anything you want, and he does pretty good work. I've bought two 3rd members from him, one of which is behind my twin turbo small block car..
    Tom
     
  6. lothiandon1940
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    btt for Good Wood.
     
  7. mow too much
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    Like posted above, it's not what's referred to as a 8" if its out of a 56 Ford. You might take the opportunity to replace it with a Maverick 8", parts are much more available for these rear ends and the Maverick fits nicely under a Model A.
    Good luck
     
  8. TurboX2
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    Yes a 69-77 Ford Maverick 8" rear is 56.5" wide and a Granada/Versailles 77-81 is 58" wide both good rearends for a Model A the Maverick is best with fenders. Most 56 Ford rearends were around 61" wide except the 57-59 Ranchero or wagon 9" at 57.25" wide. All mesurments are from wheel flange to wheel flange. This may help to determin your rearend that you have.
     
  9. Good Wood
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    To add a bit of info, I'm told he rear is an oddball, specific to the '56 p***enger car. The ring gear is a little bigger than 8", the drive pinion has 10 splines, the rear housing is round, and the gear ratio is 3.78. This is not the more common 8" or 9".

    Thanks for any info you guys might have.
     
  10. Super Streak
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    The rear in my '30 coupe is out of a Maverick. The guy that built the car choose it because it fit in with out to much h***le.
     
  11. Hotrodmyk
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    Maverick rear in the '34 pickup. Fit perfectly.
     
  12. Russco
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    Im pretty sure that would be the same rear used from 49-56 on Ford cars looks a little like an 8" but its not. I think they are a DANA/****ER rear differential. I know the 3 speed non OD shoebox cars came with them in a 3.78 ratio.
     
  13. dirt t
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    I'll repeat 36 3window Post a picture so we can help!
     
  14. kuhn1941
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    My 65 ford fairlane had a 8" in it , the car was 200ci 6 cylinder 3 on the tree . The pumpkin looks like a smushed 9" third member .Yes the prices are getting up there .
     
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  15. kuhn1941
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    A pic of 8" from curry's website .
     

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  16. Good Wood
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    Still looking ! Have some additional info, but no pictures. Had to throw it back in car to make it a roller again.

    It's definitely been identified as a '56 ford p***enger car rear (an oddball configuration, specific to 1956.) It's not an 8" or 9", but It's 8" plus.
    Carrier housing = WAD-4205A
    Drive pinion = WAE-4610B
    Ring gear = WAE-4210B
    28 spline axles
    3.78 gear ratio
    It also has a round, smooth rear housing, not oval.
    I really need the carrier housing and ring/pinion. I can get all the small parts.
    Still looking for help, before I have to spend a couple grand for a completely new rear. Thanks guys.
     
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  17. BurntOutOldMechanic
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    Dude,
    I got an 28 spline 8" open carrier I'll give ya' but it's from a 60's vintage 8" an' I dunno' if it's what ya' need. Quit draggin' yer' feet n' post up some pictures of yer' set up.

    Laffin'

    [​IMG]

    PM me if ya' want it.
     
  18. hotroddon
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    yep the 8" came out in (I believe) '62. The 1956 P***enger car rear end is the same as 1955 - they came with the following combinations; All six-cylinder engines with the standard three-speed transmission were ***embled with a 3.89 rear gear; a 4.11 was optional. Should the straight-six be backed by the Ford-O-Matic, the rear gears were 3.31 standard and 3.55 optional in 1955, or 3.22 standard and 3.56 optional in 1956.
    Victorias sporting a V-8 with the three-speed manual had a 3.78 gear or an optional 3.89; these numbers are reversed when the overdrive is installed. As with the straight-six, the Ford-O-Matic required its own set of final gear ratios: For 1955, a 3.31 was standard and 3.55 optional; for the 1956 models, a 3.22 was standard with a 3.56 optional.

    They are not all that easy to find parts for, but here is one on Cl right now, and no I have nothing to do with it.http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/pts/3585831030.html
     
  19. lht
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    8 and 9 inch look similar if its a 9 inch you can't get a socket & exstention on bottom bolt of center chunk 8 inch you can
     
  20. Good Wood
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    I finally got around to getting some pics of the rear. I'm still hoping someone can help me identify it, once and for all. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.............Woody
     

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  21. George/Maine
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    You have a 49 -56 pic #5 see how the ujoint bolts on, NO U BOLTS. PIC TO RIGHT.
     
  22. brandon
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    Has a flange that the u joint goes in and that bolts to yoke like a 8.8...?
     
  23. stillrunners
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    sure looks like my Mopar 8 3/4 ....the case should have a number on the drivers side near the yoke.....
     
  24. Good Wood
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    It's definitely been identified as a '56 ford p***enger car rear (an oddball configuration, specific to 1956.) It's not an 8" or 9", but It's 8" plus.
    Carrier housing = WAD-4205A
    Drive pinion = WAE-4610B
    Ring gear = WAE-4210B
    28 spline axles
    3.78 gear ratio
    It also has a round, smooth rear housing, not oval.
    I really need the carrier housing and ring/pinion. I can get all the small parts.
    Still looking for help, before I have to spend a couple grand for a completely new rear. Thanks guys.
     
  25. charlieb66
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    Let me make your day. I just s****ped one of those RE on Friday. It had been sitting on the ground for a number of years and the brakes were all rusted up. Most likely the Hoghead part was good.
     
  26. Ole don
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    The 56 parts had a different number of axle splines than the 49 to 55 had. If you need to put a 56 pumpkin in an earlier housing, you need to heat and hammer more clearance for the ring gear, and change either the axles or the spider gears so they match. It may be less expensive to find replacement parts for this rear than to put in used unknown parts. All new and taken care of, it should last your lifetime.
     

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