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Speed holes..speed holes

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by convict, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. convict
    Joined: Dec 19, 2012
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    convict
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    from laredo,tx

    Thinkin about putting speed holes in a model a frame does anyone have pics of a model a coupe frame with speed holes. What do u all think,opinions r welcome
     
  2. HotRodBen1987
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    Gotta love speed holes. I am about to get my frame back together finally. Not a model A frame but one I built out of 2x3 tubing and I think it turned out really nice!
     
  3. HotRodBen1987
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    yeah sorry forgot pictures ha

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  4. convict
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    Looks sick!!
     
  5. black 62
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    dumb then dumber now----not a fan
     
  6. speed holes: Holes you put in the hood of your car with a pickaxe to (supposedly) make it go faster. These holes may also be installed via sniper fire.

    Ned: Whatcha diddely-doin', neighbor?

    Homer: Aw, putting speed holes in my car. Makes it go faster.

    Ned: Is that so? Well, gee, maybe the old Flanders-mobile could use some...
    :D
     
  7. patrick english
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    yEah Simpsons is awesome.
     
  8. All kidding aside, it's lookin good:cool:
     
  9. What the fuck is this punctuation configuration "---"
    All my brain tells me to do with it is "minus minus minus" because it doesn't correlate to anything I was ever taught. Since you just made it up and use it every place you go like a turd, would you mind explaining it ?

    Speed holes are a great way to make a "pound for pound" stronger part. Even stronger if you bell them .
    Plus They just look cool too. Its a perfect example of form follows function and the resultant mechanical beauty. Almost everything fast & light has speed or lightening holes, so much so that holes and performance have become synonymous. Will it make you faster ? It will make you lighter and that should but it will look faster even standing still.
    There's a "holes" thread hear too!.
     
  10. Olderchild
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    I think some one missed the" HOLE" point:D
     
  11. txturbo
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    if you cut holes to make it lighter....doesn't it defeat the purpose by adding a piece of pipe inside the frame like in the pics? Looks like you added more weight than you removed.
     
  12. mohead1
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    Very nice work on that frame.....I was wondering about the inserts myself, but its your deal anyway....did you do the paint....its sharp
     
  13. gnichols
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    IMHO, if you don't put in the inserts (which are heavy as already noted) then the chassis (or body parts, or bones, etc.) will easily fill up with dirt and water unless you put some drain holes in the low points. You will also have to figure a way to dip or paint the inside of the frame to keep it rusting from the inside out, too. My 37 Ford sedan had open inside frame rails and when we blasted it we found dirt / dust, gravel, dead insects, globs of road tar, and a good number of rocks the size of golf balls wedged inside the frame. The car came from rural Indiana. For a driver, I'd limit them to just the cosmetic areas. For a race car or show car you could go crazy with them, I suppose. Still, they sure look nice on this frame. Gary
     
  14. 19-c
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    I love the look of lightening holes on hot rods. I am currently using them on my 30 roadster build. However, something tells me in the back of my mind that in 5 years people will be filling them back in with plugs. There will be people selling steel discs of various sizes to fill in the holes and "undo" the salt flats look. haha
     
  15. tommy
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    Just like louvers ...what started out as a speed secret to go faster has now taken on a cosmetic look that has nothing to do with their original purpose. Some of the over done lightening holes look stupid to me. Yeah I drilled my axle and wishbone but purely for decoration.
     
  16. HotRodBen1987
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    Thanks man you should go ahead and do it to your A model frame!

    Yes welding the sleeves in made it heavier, but I like the way they look so I did it anyways. And as stated above somewhere, strengthens the frame back up.

    Thanks and yes I did. Base and clear. And those speed holes are not fun to paint inside! I'm building this frame for a 32 Chevy coupe.
     
  17. You really need to sleeve holes in a tube or the tube fills up with crap.
    You can sleeve them with schedule 40 pipe and make it heavier . Or you can sleeve it with exhaust tubing and not be heavier. You can use stainless exhaust tubing and polish it inside so its not hard to paint in there :D

    Looks good man, the holes too
     
  18. lawman
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    That is a very nice frame !!!!
     
  19. Txturbo,
    modern rules from most sanctioning bodies require that you heal the hole, sleeve it. Used to be that most holes did not get healed way back when but when people started running holes on the street, it became apparent that they needed to be healed to keep the mud out.

    Most holes get healed with lighter metal than the parent structure, I don't have a rule book in front of me but as I recall it is allowable to use lighter gauge material to sleeve the holes. The actual weight reduction from drilling an axle or creating lightening holes in a chassis is negligible anyway. It is a good visual effect and can be used for psyche factor in the staging lanes if you race much like winging your engine and causing your opponent to red light ( I do that all the time ;)) or running a stockish baby hemi.

    Some people like it some do not.

    On a side note, when I was little I thought that when people said lightening holes I thought that they were saying "lightning" holes. I could never find the thunder bolts on the cars or bikes with lightning holes.

    Hotrodben1987,
    The frame looks good to me maybe not everyone else that sees it but with me and you that makes two, if there were three of us it would be a movement.

    Quick question, are yu running the bones inside the mount by design or did it just happen that way? it is just a question not a judgment.
     
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  20. Steadfast mfg
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    We like the look !
     
  21. Listen buddy , this is about speed holes!
    That way too cool elliptical stuff will make everybody just give up
    Damn that's nice. Makes me warm and fuzzy
     
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  22. 117harv
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    Steadfast, beautiful work, I have several pics of your work saved.
     
  23. Jet96
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    That's cool !
     
  24. sedanbob
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    As was said earlier, the lightening in negligible, but the look is killer. Especially the ovals with polished stainless inside!
     
  25. coopsdaddy
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    I like the holes,it's a hot rod and hot rods need to function but they also need to look great and stand out,those little details do make a difference,look at all the rolling bones cars.
     
  26. black 62
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    from arkansas

    model a rails are channel--- not tubing---so they will(don't) look anything like the street rod pics we are seeing--- just for the" compelled"---
     
  27. Dreddybear
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    I wish I had you around when I ruined my car with them. Oh the regret...


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  28. Dreddybear
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    Stole this from Jeffy.

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  29. 117harv
    Joined: Nov 12, 2009
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    ^^^ Those are speed and lightening holes.
     
  30. A boxed A chassis will slightly resemble a tube chassis. A stock A chassis already is not going to take a lot of torque if you go poking holes in it it will only get worse.
     

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