Projects Project 333 [Half Evil] a Mid Engine Roadster DragCar started finally.

Judgeing from your work so far whatever you do will look good ,,, Tim Jones

 

The look with that bodywork changes everything!

Killer!

 

Dave , You are one talented guy. I enjoy your posts and wish I had your talent.
Keep posting I look forward to every post.
Thank's
Terry aka dirt t

 

Tank brackets machined w/ holes..........Need to figure out the mounting to the chassis..I think I will fab up some saddle mounts and clamp it to the upper rails....

 

Whenever a unique build like this takes place, packaging (a place for everthing and everthing in its place) becomes a problem. I (just me) am not too crazy about having the fuel tank there.

 

It looks good, but does that placement not make the tank a bit susceptible to a blower or clutch explosion?

I suppose you could mitigate such risks by making up an L-shaped firewall/scatter shield of sufficient thickness to mount underneath and forward of the tank, but it'd probably be lighter to just mount it somewhere with less exposure to high speed shrapnel.

It's a lot more work, but a tail tank shaped to mimic the nose and mounted low behind the rear axle would look bad ass IMO.

You could extend and pinch the rear rails together to form a push-bar looking bumper to protect it and finish off the back end.

Or, you could shape the tank to replace the lower rear portion of the deck lid and body that you had to remove before.

Properly finished and with the filler spout artfully concealed, you'd never know it was a fuel tank.

 

Everything looks great Dave.

Glenn

 

As being the resident A-hole about anything having to do with dragcars on this board I will give my reasonings.

1) Fuel tank is not located within the confines of the chassie-its sitting on top of it.
2) By the photos shows lower line fittings outside of the framerails(that could change)
3) I have never seen it happen on a ALC car (does not meen it cant) but a blower comming apart would/could tale the tank out. So spend another $$$$$ on a blower bag and pray.
4) Tank is much-much bigger than you will need unless you plan on driving it from your shop to the track and wait in line to get in. You will use less than 2 gal by the time you fire-up to burnout, backup and stage, run then turn off the track, 4to5 gallons is all you need, so why carry all that extra heat potential around.

Since you already have a dialoge going with NHRA on your chassie , I would drop them these pix to see what they have to say about it. If they say its OK to do like that, then carry-on my freind, But there is no way I would even consider doing the tank like that on a customer car and to be responcable for it, again thats just the A-Hole in me talking----Looks great otherwise

 

Constructive criticism is always welcome........never claimed to have done this before....The moment you think your better than everyone else...your done....I know too many people like that........The tank is just sitting at the location for the moment....Yes, I would like to place it in this location. Yes, I discussed the location w/ the tech guy..........He even said it needed no underbelly protection..........I have plans on fabbing up a contoured to the tank shield anyway......I am currently pondering shortening the tank to fit just inside the frame rail......jury is still out, ya never know...I may want to go grocery shopping..he he he......but if I choose to leave the tank this size.......I was going to bend up hoops that would be welded off the upper rails on each side, kinda like some do w/ there tanks way out front......From one potential a-hole to another...keep-um-coming....Littleman

 

My vote counts for zero but...This angry dart is probably going to want a bunch of weight in the nose to calm it down. Maybe the tank would work better in the nose? Carry on.

 

holy crap! i can't believe i've been missing this thread!! incredible work. just incredible.

 

That track-t nose gives it a totally different look up front and I happen to like it. carry on....

 

One more thought on the tank placement (and maybe our "resident A-hole" can clear this up). If you are running a typical Hilborn style mechanical pump, doesn't the tank really need to be set up so acceleration overloads the pump with head pressure? This is probably more of an issue with where the outlet fitting is located in the tank shell, but fuel in the line reacts the same as fuel in the tank under G-loads...

 

I do not have the room up in the front nose.....I actually have not considered placing it in that location at all.....due to my location.........It would be great to have the tank in front of the engine......but again...not enough room to build a tank w/ some capacity needed...I built this as short as I could make it.........and still had to stretch it an additional 10'' to make it work........I have an external belt driven oil pump that will mount on the driver side front of the block....The fuel pump bolts to the back of that going toward the tank.....Dave

 

Sprint cars have the pump front a tank back, Its a matter of head pressure and the weight of the fuel and pump vacuum will overcome accel forces.

 

I guess I missed that part about being "traditional".

 

"Traditional"????

 

Very nice build Dave, Kool !

In my mind you have a traditional build.... Someone shoud dig out some old magazines and you will see how their hot rod has influenced and styled your build.... Ummm, "Old Noisy" comes immediately to mind !

When I was at Bonneville last summer there was a "good" aftermaket steel bellhousing in the inspection area on a desk, which looked as if a "hot knife when threw butter". 12" cut/exit in the scattershield....

I am running an aftermarket steel bell in my Belly Tank and I had to build a second scattershield between the bell and the complete fuel system. My fuel tank sits on top of the transmission (has a tranny blanket), just behind the bell with fuel lines running along side the bell..... Just a thought, but heck what do I know, awsome work buddy ! I certainly understand how you run out of room very quick...

 

Very familiar with that setup; we run the same thing on the supers. We're not launching from a standing start, though. Guess it's not an issue. Carry on.

 

Dave, I'm really diggin this whole mid-engine roaster. I love the front end. Now is the a glass front on the car? That and any idea on what your wanting to do for the windscreen? Are you going for something like a FED windscreen or what are you looking at doin. Anyway, loving the thread keep up the good work.

 

Cool...a fan

-Traditional is a tag.....I do not like tags....true
-Traditional is someone elses idea of what they think I should build...I build what I want....
-Traditional.....to me is a state of mind.....for the past is the past....
-The Truth......This build is as traditional as the Early Hemi CNC parts you sell.....by the way..thanks for offering the parts for sale....otherwise tradition may die off...and kudos to you for writing what you thought..I like that.I am sure many agree w/ you...and thats ok...........Littleman

 

navyfire72, thanks............The glass front panels I am still playing w/....I may alter the nose to be more of a point and slightly longer..........and I do envision a dragster type windscreen...maybe w/ some yellow clear plastic?..........Littleman Dave

 

Thanks Candy-Man.............I sat in the SO-CAL tank..........they are very sparse for room and take allot of thought when building one.....you need to stay atleast 20 steps ahead !....Yours is killer............Dave

 

Damn, no idea how I missed this one.. Littleman, awesome build sir, you always seem to create the coolest stuff!

 

Dave keep building your traditional style/influence modified roadster.... It is Killer.....

 

This thread is awesome, can't get enough

 

I would rather see the HAMB clogged with projects like this than one more hack and thrash, no budget junk rod. Sorry dude, don't agree with your position.

As far as tradional? Looks an awful lot like a bitchin late 60s to early 70's altered with modern safety gear, you know, to be usable today.

While you're at it, can you spread some love on this thread too? 'Cause there ain't no tradition going on there either.

 

Hear, hear!
My only issue with this thread is the extra work it's causing me. Every time I think "yeah, that's pretty good" and head in to the house, I log on and see the updates - and then it's back out to the garage to re-do what I thought was pretty good.
Cool build. Cool car.

 

Other than the fact that Marlo and Les were racing before many of us were born!