DIY Spray On Chrome

hydrophilized.=wets the surface

 

If tin is yellow it is bad! If silver is dark, adhesion is bad, it mean tin is bad!

 

he is working with same formula, wait 2 or 4 days, untill turn yellow and it are ok for work

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Alsa corp sale for 72 hours. Might be the time to give their spray kit a try.

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I bought his chemicals some months ago! Nothing good! Later hi sent to me sensitizer, but i dont try it! He use some different formula for sensitizer! Normal sensitizer is maybe a little yellow!

 

Maybe this alsa products are best on market BUT 200$ (+shipping to me is more than 60$) just for 2.5m2 ! There must be real gold for this price! And even yes, chemicals works perfect what then? Who will buy them? How much will be price for one item???

In alsa is thats same silver nitrate and lot of money to make good advertising

 

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Old Tin can be the cause of that, I've had that issue in the past too

 

This is true

 

Their Formula is much much advanced(having to worked with them in the past) its a two stage formula, Angel Gilding is a three stage formula(Silver concentrate, silver activator and reducer) Alsa corps is only two reducing chemical complexity meaning its more fool proof...Quality wise its second to none. will I use them in the future? I just dont have the money and the market here in Nicaragua could not compete with realy cheap nickel/chrome plating. the ONLY reason I am able to compete against real chrome plating here is due to how inexpencive Angel Gilding chemicals are, BUT I like their chrome tinte clear coat and will us it in the future..

this is how cheap is to chrome plate a front bumper here in Nicaragua(for a pick up truck) $150 yeah that right its very cheap, but in the USA I can see a big market for it because people dont have a choice, Triple chrome is Way too expencive in the states, so a quality product like Alsa can have a niche market in the Show rooms...

and yes I know sudzhis you can make your own formula(I have done it my self) but this is a very complex matter and Doing a "How To DIY Spray On Chrome" its about making things simple for the average guy, The Alsa Corp kits are as Fool Proof as it can get. nothing its as simple, but it comes at a big price, the Angel Gilding kit I built and anybody can built its more complex(wetting agent, weak tin for silver, having to test coatings) but if you are game to learn the ups and downs, then Nothing beats it as I believe is "THE" most Inexpencive way to metalize any surface. nothing comes close to it, and Graphite its not exactly metalizing..

 

Nicamarvin yes Alsa is the, best, but for such a crazy price i would say they are not even in first three places! Its ok, I can buy they product, but than parts price will be high as real chrome!

Nicamarvin when u work with Alsa and AG chemicals, did in finished work was some differences? silver mirror is silver mirror and u cant get better than it is! Yes, about base and clear coat it is true, they must be the best!

For now I am so tired from all those experiments, that i think i dont want to do it more! I will try to finish some job- this petrol tank and some not big parts for Harley and it is enough for me i think!

For now i cant get good nothing from A to Z, except parts what i dont paint by my self!

 

what is your problem? maybe we can help you

 

I`m tired to fighting with coatings! Last time with car wheel i get three different problems!
I paint all wheels- ground paint, base, acrylic top coat!
1st- with first my fail- dont silver wheel in horizontally position
2nd- wheel after clear coat stay much much darker and not good mirror
3rd- wheel after clear coat stay matte!

I paint all wheels in one time! After painting I wait 72h! hard....

 

Hello hello, i whant to show you some pictures of a problem im having. Te silver layer wen you lok at it in the shadow loks perfect but wen you take it to the sun yo can se how the light pass trough the solver and turns brown. is like if im seeing the previous stages of the silverin wen it start. Doesnt mather how much silver i apli to the part it alwais look the same.
What can be mi problem??
We have try making all the chemikals fresh in the thay, specialy the reducer, have try diferent tipe of sensitizer. the balance of the guns ar fine.
Please Help!!!!

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most of the time you get what you pay for, except if you work your ass off and become a scientist like some of us have done, that way you can make a regular product to shine like the best of them, I believe Alsa is second to none on the spray on chrome market, for quality and know how to. but a regular Joe painter can pull it off using AG chemicals and this how to and make it look as a million dollar part.... now for Hard Core Do it your selfers and Scientist minded guys like you, you can take the core chemicals(silver nitrate, amonium hydroxide, sodium hydroxide, formalidae, stranous chloride) and make it work also and make it look good also..BUT thats way out side of this DIY thread right?

no difference between silvered pieces using AG and Alsa´s chemicals, none what so ever......But as I said earlier doing it the AG way is more complex(wetting agent, Tin for silver shelf life)..

thtas the issue of doing things from scratch, you are doing the trial and error your self, but dont give up just yet, I´ve been there myself. and at the end I decided that I need it to buy products that worked from the start so I did the research and found that nothing is less inexpencive than Angel gilding chemicals, even if they are not meant for spray on chrome, they are for silver mirrors, we just need to change the mixing for it to work with our spraying method... so dont give up yet my friend

I had the same issue myself long ago. I tried all types of coatings, from oil enamel to wood polyurethane, but guess what? I´ve became a good painter in the process, so all you do you will learn from it..

 

I know whats going on, its the Tinted Clear coat. when I mixed my own tinted clear coat and paint a piece and place it next to a piece I paint using the Alsa chrome tinted clear coat, they look the same in the shade(inside, no sun) but as soon as they go outside you can see the tinted clear coat showing the same color as the sun hits it from the sides, this is not the case with the alsa chrome tinted clear coat and thats why I will be getting a gallon of that stuff once I bring my AG chemicals in the near future, even if this alon add about 20% more the the piece price I will still make profit

 

nica this pictures don't have topcoat. just silvered

 

then you have an issue with the sensitizer, seems like its getting old, try it on a small pieces, then silver it and once you dry it with the hair dryer see if you can take the silver off with your fingers, if it takes effort to take it off then the tin for silver is good, if you take it off very very easy then the tin for silver is bad

 

Nicamarvin u mean before or after hair dryer try to rub off silver?


Nicamarvin do u try adhesion with

Do silver after hair dryer rubs off with tape or no?

 

I´ve only try it with my thumb and it wont come off, that is if the tin is good, it its bad then it comes off very easy

 

NICAMARVIN, after 892 posts can you put in one post the easy and cheapest way to "DIY spray on chrome" so we do not have to read all of the previous posts.

THANK YOU

How does this process compare to powdercoating that is impervious to most chemicals, dirt and dust? It is a two step process, spray and heat.

 

Rick there is no only one answer, only one way! How many peoples so many problems!

 

you should feel lucky all of this info in in one Thread to read from, I was not as lucky as you. just read the thread from the beginning, the process is a very complex one and I have tried to make it as fool proof as possible but if you miss just one step you will Fail. so read the thread(my post only, as not to get too confused) and once you think you have to the process all figured it out on your mind try it on small pieces and then you will find out how complex this process can be....OR buy Alsa´s already set up system, it will cost you a few coins more than doing it your self(well more than a few coins) but that kit is as fool proof as it gets, you would have to be brain dead to ruin it

I did try one of the best chrome powder coat powder from Caswell Plating and its far from easy and far from looking like the real deal..

this is how the coatings I´ve tested stack up to the real deal

Triple Chrome
Spray on chrome
Best Chrome Paint(innate when done properly)
Cerakote Chromex ceramix chrome like coat
Ultra Chrome powder coat

No problem

 

I'm going to read this thread, interesting.. --- FWIW I painted my truck rims with a "chrome" rattlecan once, and it's a nice color but definitely NOT chrome. Looks more like brushed aluminum or something.

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he strange is that before went well, you can see my pictures. but now the silver is more dark.... i will try with new sensitizer. see my video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHeJUsTwZPs

 

Ok, now that I have read most of the post's here I still don't know!! Will this stuff last? Is it worth the money or should I just save more money to get the real thing?

 

It stuff 100% works if u do it right! I looks brilliant BUT do it right is hard!

 

this stuff should be as good as paint on a car----if that answers your question