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Can you guys explain in detail why i feel like crap after welding

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 55Thunderboy, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. I have a number of welding certs as well as almost 100 college units in welding technology. I do have some idea of what I'm talking about
    Drinking milk when welding galvanized will raise your LDL and give you the squirts if you are lactose intolerant. That's it. The idea that it is some magic elixir is absolute bullshit. How anyone can think that something that you drink will counter act something that you breath astounds me. It make as much sense as the old myth that eating parsley will make your jizz taste good. As my instructor told us, keep your head out of the smoke.
     
  2. slammed
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    Heavy metals are toxic. Sounds like your body is rebelling after all the years of abuse. That is why hangovers are so bad. It's your body telling your ego/mind to STOP killing us. We were never meant to take such prolonged exposures to all these poisons.
     
  3. 29AVEE8
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    No I can not explain your symptoms. While I was a medic in the U.S.A.F., and have some knowledge of anatomy and physiology, you need to consult an M.D. that has specific training in the effects of heavy metal exposure. Seriously...
     
  4. iammarvin
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    Or any other metal put in your body?
     
  5. flynbrian48
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    The HAMB is now a trusted source of medical advice, as most Dr's are "...dummies..."?

    Call your dummy Dr., and get a referal to a neurologist, for cry'n out loud.
     
  6. 55Thunderboy
    Joined: Mar 27, 2009
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    Thanks for all the suggestioms guys.

    Regarding my health i do have a heart condition i was born with

    Second degreee heart block.

    Is complicated to explain but its like a car having funky ignition timing. The heart block is an electrical impulse interuption not all the time its so crazy. I can have an EkG and it can show up normal 5 times in. Row then the 6th time the heart waves are out of whack. At rest my heart rate is lower than most. I have seen so many specialist and only a few suggested i get a pacemaker while others say it is not needed now in my life.

    Can the magnetic radiation from my Miller be messing with my heart i hope not but for now i am putting my welding torch up and taking a break as this is starting to worry me.

    Im calling into my dr today and my cardiologist.

    Just so depressing if i cant weld anymore and i am only 42
     
  7. Turbo26T
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    " Just so depressing if i cant weld anymore and i am only 42..."

    Not to be a smartass, but ya can't weld dead either...Go see your cardiologist... !!!
    I'm betting on EMI as the root cause...But , Post # 20 mentions flashing lights triggering seizures... could be ....
    Good luck anyhow
    Stan
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2013
  8. afaulk
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    Don't be in the building or anywhere near where someone is welding. Best of luck and learn to gas weld. The magnetic field is screwing you up.
     
  9. merking56
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    Welding is also suspect in causing multiple sclerosis
     
  10. pitman
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    The cells in our bodies are effected by EMF or fields. One of the early articles to appear on this phenomenon was in the NewYorker in 1987. I believe the author was Helen Wertheimer. I recall reading that radiation damage is a cumulative exposure form of issue. If the "Device" is developing a strong field effect, you might look into the causes, and learn what you can. Docs can help, but we become investigators and need to find soundly written materials, and perspectives when our health is affected.
     
  11. My first thought was maybe your eyesight is worse than you realize and trying to focus on the puddle is causing dizziness and more. for some reason your body reacts worse than other people. Just thinking out loud.
     
  12. FOURTYDLX
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    If your welding,and has two cables,keep the together,and don"t step between as you weld,otherwise,your in the field.
     
  13. flathead4d
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    The heart is an electrical device. It can be affected by electrical impulses from magnetic fields which are created by welders. I have a pacemaker but occasionally do some minor welding with a small mig welder. (the 110 volt type). I have been advised to avoid larger welders, especially the large stick type. My guess is the welder you are using is causing the problem. Check with your doctor.
     
  14. if you have a pacemaker stop welding, it interfers with it and your heart regulator...sounds like the emf are affecting your circulation i.e. heart beat...remember that thing fires off electronicly and you're interfering with that..hang up the stinger for a bit and go in for an ekg.......its giving you a warning- best to heed it.. you may be eligiable for a shiny new pacemaker
     
  15. bobss396
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    I stopped doing heavy welding years ago. It all but ruined my night vision and I don't know many older welders who don't have some sort of health problem. Nervousness, tremors in the hands, of course eyesight issues, etc.

    It may be time to get out before real serious damage is done, considering your existing health conditions. I'd see a doctor soon.

    Bob
     
  16. oj
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    Try gas welding and see if you still have the same symptoms, that'll tell you whats' what.
     
  17. Buzzard II
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    See your Dr./Specialist and find out what exactly is wrong! It may be time to go back to oxy/fuel welding! Anything is better than going toes up! Good luck!
     
  18. volvobrynk
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    Just to get one thing perfectly clear; welding is bad for your body!!!

    Take all the avalible précaution forehand and do the right after threatment! Not only to the steel!!!!

    Welding releases alot of toxic gas, smoke and stuff you set free when it cools or you grind on it.
    45% is toxic, 50% reacts with you body, when inside Aka. When it's to late!
    The last 5% is heat and light. Both is bad for you, but not lethal.

    Please see a doctor, maby you glass is full, maby you did something different.
    But DO NOT take chances with you Heath!!!!!

    Please ask us about car stuff, or about tricks/hints/advice about simple stuff.
    Questions like these should start with: Is there a doctor in the house!?

    Welding is a job that trys to kill you in everything you do, sad and 95% true.
     
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  20. There are many doctors who have certain specialties. Go see your regular doctor who then can recommend a specialist. It would help if you can determine if it is the argon, co2, electromagnetic, fumes from the welding or possibly your posture is pinching a nerve or blood vessel.
     
  21. I am not a doctor but my sister is a PHD, MD.
     
  22. atomickustom
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    Only one person mentioned it unless I missed some but I think there is a good chance that is the physical element of welding (bending over, holding odd positions, kneeling/crouching, etc.) might actually be the problem especially considering your heart condition.

    A neurologist isn't a bad idea but a cardiologist is another thing to consider. ("Hey Doc, can kneeling on a concrete floor and holding my arms at a funny angle for long periods of time while staying as still as possible cause me some circulation problems?" seems like a good question to start with.)

    If you're close to the welding when your friend does it but not feeling the effects it seems likely that the posture and movement are the culprits?
     
  23. young'n'poor
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    I have nothing new to add to this. I hope your doctor visit goes well and keep your head up, at 42 there is still alot you can do in this hobby without welding. I'm 26 and have worked as a welder for 5 years now and I gotta say after seein many an older guy forced to quit welding due to health issues I'm seriously trying to get out of this welding booth. We mig weld all day on mild steel with no respirators and I feel like crap at the end of a day, and at the end of the week I'm a coughing, tired zombie.


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  24. Agreed - along with the breath holding for long time periods with a heart condition that is timing related within a big RF field.
     
  25. chaos10meter
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    I have to disagree about the stop welding comment.
    I had a pacemaker/ defib thinggy installed 6 years ago, I specifically asked about welding and the only thing the doctors told me is don't lay the cables across your chest or lean over a running alternator other than that it's no problem.
    Ask your doctor see what he/she thinks.
     
  26. Zombie Hot Rod
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    Do you weld with the ground wire and the welder chord in any old place? You shouldn't have them circled around you at all, that would put you in the "magnetic field" that's created when you weld.

    Try welding something with both of the wires in front or, behind, or next you to. . . not wrapped all around yourself.
     
  27. belair
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    Supposedly some people are allergic to EM fields. There was an article on Fox website about a town in (West?) Virginia that has outlwed all cell phone and other wireless activites due to a big military and space radar set-up. It is a recgognized illness in Sweden, but doesn't have much traction in the medical world.
     
  28. jetnow1
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    Seems to be related to when you got this particular welder- Have you tried another one
    either same model or different ? You might just have a machine that had the tolerances
    stack in some strange way that effects you. Hope you find a solution- Jim
     
  29. How much have you actually worked with galvanized metal? Passing a welding test and taking some classes doesnt compare with spending 18 hour days with galvanized metal that is being cut and or welded...
     
  30. First, I'm calling bullshit on welding for 18 hours a day. Secondly, I have welded plenty of galvanized. Thirdly, I did not just "take some classes and pass a test". I was a welder in the field for quite a few years, welding on hi rise office towers, water plants, bridges, the L.A. Metro system, several jails and prisons, etc., etc. Non of this has anything to do with the myth that milk is a curative or preventative agent for galvanize poisoning. Perhaps you would like to educate and enlighten me, with all of your vast experience and knowledge on the subject. Be sure to include links to irrefutable evidence that milk does, indeed, protect a welder from zinc fumes.
    I will cue up the theme from "Jeopardy" while you craft your eloquently worded response
     

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