Is'nt it correct to say that UK H.P. is rear axle rated ? I had a '37 Ford Woodie that came from England and it was 85 hp, but rated at 30 bhp, I was told they did that because you were taxed on hp rating. Emblems on sides of my hood said "30 hp " My lawn mower is 5 hp (Ha !) Keep Posting. Thanks
No, it's taxable HP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower The challenge with the V860 is always going to be the steering. If the car wasn't so tiny, you could probably find something to adapt that works, but given the space you've got to work with, it's going to be challenging. I think I've worked out how to gain a little space fore/aft, but width wise, you're fairly well stuck. As for channeling, the entire body is riveted to the frame, so keep that in mind when you begin to plan it. However, with a chop and a channel, you may need to remove the top insert to stick your head out - there's not much room!! The real bugaboo is the rear axle ratio. It's something like 5.5:1. I looked at taller tyres, but you can only gain so much that way and you can throw the car all out of proportions. The 100E rear axle innards can be made to work if you convert to open drive. If you do that, you're best off to just put the entire 100E drivetrain in (crown/pinion into the Y rear axle) and get with Nervous Bob - he has two or three of those rare manual overdrives for the 100E three speeds that bolt on the back. I may go with a Jeep Go-Devil initially and then work on my V860 conversion later. There are bellhousings that came on Kaisers and others that will accept an OD transmission for these. The trick over here is finding a rear that is suitable....
thanks man! yeah i know its a shame to cut it up, but at the end of the day i searched for and bought this car with that intention, iv already got a rod i use as my daily driver, now i just want to build an impractical early 50s styled hotrod... i will be sure to keep this thread posted up to date.
yeah i know.. this really isnt gonna be a easy conversion haha thats why iv built a hot 100e engine to run for now, till iv figured how to do the v8 conversion. i reckon that theres gonna have to be alot of trial and error designing and fabrication of the steering box and assembly. haha yeah if i chop her im not going anything major and im really rather short anyway at only like 5' 6" haha... iv been thinking about the rivets, would it be safe to replace them with bolts? making it easier to take the body on and off in the future? yeah me and Bob where talking about open drive conversion as he did drop that he had a few O/D boxes braking is gonna be another issue as there isnt anything i can think of that will go on easily, gonna have to machine parts and fit something else, i have been told that volvo 144?? spindles are pretty close and just need a little machining, i want to keep it all really 50s looking and im REALLY fussy when it comes to periodness.
Hey there, The Westbourne car I had was fitted with a Rover V8. This was a very tight fit, the way they did it was to flatten the firewall just in front of the v at the back of the bonnet. This would leave the battery needing a new home. With the new s all batteries you should be able to tuck that either under a seat or behind the rear seat. I like the idea of channeled and un-chopped with no fenders. Martyn
Until you sort out the rear diff ratio, even the OD won't make it real practical for anywhere out on the motorway. I think the bolts will be fine. Be certain not to use metric bolts though. Only standard imperial bolts (no whitworth). It is an early Ford afterall. I can't recall if you can put the 100E rear brakes on the earlier axle. I know I looked at converting to the 100E center section for the crown and pinion, and it was certainly do-able. I do recall the rear brakes being more problematic. In the end, my fuzzy memory tells me I was just going to manually convert them by utilizing a small wheel cylinder with the backing plate modified to accept it and shoes of an unknown origin (yet to be determined) of the correct dimensions. I was going to begin my search with early Japanese cars for compatible sizes.... In the end, with a conversion to open drive, it may be far more simple in the long run if you can find a small back axle that could be narrowed to suit - something out of a Toyota Hi-Lux perhaps? The challenge will always be to have a rear axle flange that will accommodate the 5x5.5" PCD of the wheels...that's why I was trying to mix-n-match early British Ford stuff. For the front, if you get stuck, the easy way out is have a tube axle made up that accepts early Ford kingpins and use F100 front brakes. The smaller diameter of the F100 brakes suits the overall size of the car, you'll retain the proper PCD of the wheels, you'll have better brakes than early Ford and MORE than enough for the diminutive Model-Y - it'll be like power disc brakes!! The scale of them looks right behind the spokes too - I'd run 16" early Ford wires and get some bigger tyres on. The other advantage of the tube axle is you can have it built with a drop. They're rather inexpensive here in the states - maybe $200 or so. That's my plan.
so i havnt updated in ages...... iv got the engine all up and running and been driving her around looking like this. the new engine has got abit of go in her shame she breaths pretty heavy even though everything is new!!! bobs got me another block hes having bored out for me though... and im just gonna run this one for now, dosnt cause any problems except abit of smoke and blowing oil down the side of the car haha.
so i had some free evenings after work this week.... so this happened! wasnt too sure about it to start with, but i love it now.
got home from work tonight and quickly fabricated these little headlamp brackets. pretty happy with the placement of the lamps! just gotta remove the rear valance thingy and make up some rear lights and she's good to go again.... couldnt really do alot else tonight as i suddenly had to weld the fart canon up on my mates Honda Civic haha
thanks man! they where only rushed just to get a rough idea where i wanted he lamps to sit.... but there turned out pretty usable looks great dosnt it! im so happy with how she looks!
haha.. i did like the look with fenders, but always wanted a fenderless car. it looks alot better in the flesh i think. i have kept all the parts so one day if i wanted i can put them back on. apparently the fenders and side lamps off my car are really rare and worth alot of money, as my car is so early from the start of production. hence why im not getting rid of them
Im takin bets it gets put off the road in a week. It needs a set of fattys on the back and cycle fenders PHOTOSHOP ARTISTS JOIN IN NOW!
well iv been using the Y... got the motor running well, she really shifts now but has no top end, so figuring some gearing out is next on the agenda! heres a photo i took in the early hours of the morning while camping at a vintage show last weekend.. this is one of my most favourite photos iv ever taken, for some reason.
Thanks man... I love that photo! Think I may get it printed on canvas or something... iv never took a photo of any of my cars that im so pleased with... haha.
since i havnt really done alot to her the past few months except drive, thought id upload some photos i have built a lake style exhaust with with open header or running through a pipe further back on the car, still no silencers but makes it a hell of alot quiter for longer drives haha... also finally got rid of the splutter runs like a beut now!! got abit of a clicky grindy sound coming from the gearbox area now, but ill strip that down over the winter and see what i can find. can just about make out my exhaust still gotta fabricate some brackets to mount my pork pie tail lamps! (still tempted to go for just one) gonna start building my twin carb manifold now, so will upload some progress pics when i do!
What happened next Skoty...? I've been a wannabe hot rodder for a very, very long time and I'm almost finally in a position to sort one out. Model Ys are just great and probably the best (only?) British car for a '33/'34 type rod and that's what I'm looking for. I was wondering how your one was coming along? It was looking great in 2014!
Old thread but have thoroughly enjoyed this Skoty! have you still got her? I'm building a very similar morris 8 based traditional rod.
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