paint/metal flake question

Im sure this has been beat to death and Ive tried following some of the paint thread, but I still got alot of question so Id figured Id just ask, and i get reamed so be it. Heres a bit of background.
I have a 1959 f100 that im getting to the point where I have to start planning for paint on the interior and exterior, I also am at the same point with my chopper..where i need to get some color on the tank and rear fender. I was kinda thinking to kill two birds with one stone. Anyway I seen alot of guys here use the satin paint with a flaked roof and flames and stuff, and I really dig the look. Ideally I like to flake the roof of the truck and well my daughter tells me she wants my truck to have fire on it. Thing is a few years ago I bought two, gallon kits from I think its tcp enterprise or something of viper blue metallic,base coat clear coat, for a project i ended up selling. I recently stumbled(literally) over the box with the paint and thought maybe I could use it. I read that I should be able to get the satin look with adding flattening agent to it. is this true.. and if I do the whole truck ,will I need to use a different paint, or a shiney paint for the roof before I flake it?
I was thinking of mixing maybe 2 or 3 different types of the blue roth metal flakes together for the roof and interior, maybe a silver flake to put some flames on it.
I have no idea how much flake i would need but im pretty sure it would be a bit more then 2 oz. Id like to give this a shot myself, but if Im way off I suppose I will need to find someone else to paint which would suck cause i got a shitty budget..
Anyway thanks in advance..
here a few pics of the truck

 

Not sure of the satin additive, because everything I've painted was shiny! But I do know that metal flake gets added to the clearcoat, not the color coat. The metal actually sinks into the paint, so it would be covered by the color - you might as well not do it at all. Adding it to the clear it gets sandwiched between the color coat and the clear above and really pops.
Best guess is you would add the satin to the clear, also, 'cause that is the final coat that you'd be lookin' at.

In your specific case I'd shoot the whole truck in blue. Then mask everything that wasn't roof and hit the roof with flake in a plain clear. When that sets up, remove the mask and shoot the whole truck in clear with the satin additive.
Hope that is what you were asking. Good luck!

 

Thanks!I had thought I read that you should paint then clear the car first then add a mid clear with the flake then add more clear. but with wanting to get the satin look, i wasnt sure if i did that then flaked over it if it would mess up the effect I wanted..

 

Oh, to answer your other question, a little flake gors a long way. If you are just shooting the roof and bike parts I'd be very surprised if you used a 1/4 of that 2 oz. bottle.

 

Thanks again.. I was afraid id end up buyin like 10 of the damn jars or something.. that makes me feel alittle better..

 

Anytime I buy flake it's in 1 oz. jars. Then again, I never buy two gallons of color at a time!

 

ha! i figured id need extra cause id probably mess up and have to start over a few times!

 

Most of the flat painted body, flaked roof jobs I've seen had gloss over the flake. I don't think the flake will "pop" well with flattened clear.
I'd do it as two separate jobs. Shoot the color on the whole car, mask off the top, shoot satin clear on the bottom, pull the mask off the top, mask the bottom, flake the top, gloss clear the top, you're done! (except for all the sanding, reclearing and polishing the top.

 

can buy flat clear....did buddies truck...white grill..pearl midcoat mixed in clear,,,then final coat of clear...turned out sweet,,

 

Spray the roof with a base coat ...near or the same as whats going on the rest of the truck. Don't worry about shine at this point,. Mix the glitter with the clear ( must have huge nozzle size on gun) spray until you achieve desired coverage using random-helter scelter patterns don't use straight back and forth strokes or you will never get rid of the stripes. Let that set up, then bury the flake with clear only letting each coat set-up before applying the next. 3/4 coats of clear. Let that dry for a day or so, color sand with w/320 at first then go to 600 to make it flat again. clean and recoat with more clear . two coats should do it. You want the flakes to look 6" deep in clear and shinny...adding a flattener will just kill all the fire and make it milky looking. the flakes depend on light to reflect back atcha ! Try it on something small first and once you have the feel for it..do the roof !! Note : the bigger the flake, the more clear it will take. Always wear your respirator when spraying . Have fun !

 

I did that exact thing with my wagon, metallic blue with flat clear, gave it the satin look, not flat, not shiney. I flaked the roof, white base coat, three coats of clear with flake and then three coats of clear, no flake. Use regular clear coat for the flake, not the flat clear, won't get the right look.

 

Thanks guys! I think I have a direction to aim at.. one thing though.. can i mix the flakes? like 2 or 3 colors.. and different sizes? and if i can do i mix them all together or one at a time?

 

Base coat then 2 coats of intercoat clear without the flake, then add the flake in more intercoat clear until you get it how you want it too look then spray with regular clear until the flake is buried sit out in the sun for a few days then as stated sand flat and shoot more clear Southern polyurerthane sells great clears and I just used the intercoat and regular clear and its great stuff good luck

 

cool!.. anyone know about mixing the flakes..color and size?

 

yeah you can mix the flake, I added some purple to the blue flake when I did my dash, grab a old peice to practice on and throw some ball bearing or nuts in with the flake to keep it mixed.

 

cool thanks for all the tip and help guys!