Titling a car in Pennsylvania

A HAMBer in PA bought a car from me and thinks that PA has some odd requirements for buying/registering/***ling an out of state car. I'm trying to help him out, so can anyone fill me in on what's needed on my end?

I've never had to do anything more than sign the ***le and write up a bill of sale. He seems to think that everything needs to be notorized and some other steps.

The car has a clean Illinois ***le now and it is in my name.

 

I recently bought an OT vehicle from a private party. We were both PA residents and the vehicle was PA ***led. The vehicle was ***led in husband and wife's names. Only the wife showed up to do the transfer (husband was out of town), her husband signed off at home. The husband had to come back to the notary a few days later with his ID to finish the transfer.

I think that if you get your signature notarized on the ***le and provide a notarized bill of sale, you'll be fine.

 

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-buysell.pdf

 

I live in Pa and bought a truck in Ohio. We had to take the Ohio ***le to the DMV in Ohio and have it noterized. But that may have been a Ohio law. I sold a car with a Pa. ***le to a guy in NJ and all I did was sign off as the seller on the PA ***le.

 

Pa ***les need to be Notarized, but Pa will recognize ***le procedures from the other state.

I bought a New Jersey car with a signed (not notarized) ***le = no problems.
My buddy bought a Vermont car with a bill of sale = no problems.


The info you get is only as good as the person delivering it. If you don't get good information, switch persons.

 

I buy cars & motorcycles all over the nation for a living.

Ohio, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Kentucky, Louisiana, Montana, North Carolina, Oklahoma & Wyoming are all notary states. When you buy a car from one of those states, no matter what state you are in when you buy it, the ***le must be notarized.

It sounds more difficult that it actually is. The seller is responsible for getting is notarized because they are holding the ***le from a notary state. Give them your name & address so that the notary will have all the correct info when they notarize it.

Notary or not, be absolutely certain that the seller signs and prints their name EXACTLY as it appears on the front of the ***le as printed buy the state or you will have another hoop to jump through BEFORE you can transfer the ***le into your name.

Here endeth the lesson.

 

I never had to deal with an Illinois ***le. Notaries in PA Are supposed to buy a book telling them what to do with every out of state ***le. In Pa you can't just sign a ***le and hand it off. ( with PA ***les). A NJ ***le can be just signed off and handed to a Pa resident and he then takes it to a notary and has it Notarized. You may have to take that ***le to a notary in your state, sign it off, have notary seal your signature, and ***ign it to him. He can then take it to a notary in PA and complete the transfer.
My father is a Notary and just took a renewal seminar. He does little car stuff, so he didn't buy the book. I sat in on the cl*** just to be nosey, wanted to hear the correct things to do for reconstructed and other special ***les that PA has. A little knowledge can save some time and money.

 

You CANNOT take a pre-signed ***le to a Notary to be notarized.

 

If the ***le is a PA ***le and you are reissuing in PA it must be signing by the person who is listed on the ***le in front of a PA notary. If the ***le is out of state all that is needed is for the person ***led to sign off. No notary required from there state but I have it done just to make sure.

 

With both your notarized signatures on the ***le he will have no problem at all. A notarized bill of sale is also a good idea to give him, I've found its better to have too much than too little.

 

Wow, the state of Virginia did away with notarizing ***les eons ago. I can't believe some states still do.

 

Paper trails and fees, thats what its most about.

Yes some states only have Bill of Sale and Registration for cars over 25 years old. Yes each state seems to have its own rules. I can say though if you have a good notary shop and have the big yellow book to reference to (all the states requirements) you will be fine. Its harder to bring stuff in to PA than take out.

Notarizing is protection for both parties.

 

Drop by a AAA office. You can get all the Current information and forms there-and they're a Notary as well.

 

I know everybody has stories of getting around notarized sigs, etc
But in NC, 1.ALL required notarized signatures MUST be done in the presence of a Notary 2. ***leholder(s) /Seller(s) must PRINT/SIGN names EXACTLY as they appear on the ***le. 3. NEVER erase/alter/trace over a mistake..take your time ,do it right or it's a s***storm of trouble.

Its actually a good practice to photocopy the signed ***le showing the buyers name ,etc...in case the buyer never transfers or loses the ***le..keeps from having to pay real estate tax on something you no longer own

 

Your Ill. ***le just needs to be signed by you, then notarized, that is all.

 

The NJ signature requires no notary. Can be signed and p***ed on.
The PA form MV-1 that is filled out when an out of state ***le is brought into PA must be signed by the purchaser, Seller signature not needed.
The notary function in is to verify that this person signed the do***ent in their presence.
If there is no place for a notary seal the act has no need to have a notary seal.

 

Yes, I know these things. My point is that he said get it signed and THEN bring it to be notarized.

 

Thanks for all the great info. I've bought/sold cars in a few states, but never had to deal with notaries before. Not with a car anyway. A lot of places (like kinkos) have notaries, so it shouldn't be a problem. I just want to make sure I have everything done right to save us both some trouble.

 

if IL is a NON notary state.. then all the buyer need from you is what you have provided.
in the event that the first notary doesnt know what to do.. your PA buyer needs to head to another notary..

the only other thing that MAY need addressing is out of state vehicles typically need to have the "VIN verified"

I just ***led an out of state O/T vehicle and the notary I used simply looked at the vin and do***ented it on a MV-1 form..

previously I have had to provide tracings of the vin (for other notarys) when the car was less "road ready" and I wanted a ***le..

this should really be on the buyer.. as given that your in a no ***le state.. all you should need to provide is the signed ***le and a thank you card..

 

Just have a notary in your state witness your signature and sign off on it.
Done it many times in PA