preserving surface rust

Mr. Zilla- I don't think anyone could possibly have said it better than you have. The majority of hot rodding is made up of blue collar, every day guys. We can't all afford a 50k paint job. It's about enjoying what we have. I know I'm not shooting for Barrett Jackson anytime soon. Every scratch, dent, and rust hole has a story. Every flawless paint job has a price tag..


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For anyone who got here by doing a google search for how to stop rust and preserve metal, The green IH in my profile photo has been preserved with Ospho and isn't running around with bright orange surface rust all over it since I started using it. It seems you'll get more opinion and personal attacks by bench racers, than actual information in forums.
Here's your answer. Preserve metal and prevent further rust, without damaging the original appearance (patina), by using Ospho rust inhibiting primer.

 

FNG's

 

Before and after Ospho and wax.

 

Feeling like part of that might be aimed my way, just shows how clueless you are. I built my car, did everything but the interior and the striping. Just finished a 2400 mile round trip to the HAMB Drags this past weekend. Bench racer my ass. You as the newbie drug up a 6 year old thread for no real reason. And yeah I have nice used to have nice paint. The nicks and scratches and chips are from me driving the hell out of it, not from someone letting it sit in a barn or under a tree. That's what hot rodding is all about.

There's 1200 miles worth of bugs for ya...



No one says you can't drive a car with a decent paint job. Just quit being scared or jumping on some bandwagon.

 

We cant all be rich?what the fuck does that mean ?if you cant afford sand paper and some primer sell your computer and go save your car.Never mind , just sell your car to someone who will take care of it and smash your keyboard over your head.

 

It's not about being rich or have 50k (seriously, that's what you want to compare) for a paint job.
I have had many cars that I painted myself, some even ended up winning awards for paint. I'm not a paint or body guy, I just wanted to learn because I couldn't afford to pay someone. So I hung around a painter and learned enough to get it done. Built a booth out of Clear plastic drop cloths to seal the garage and put a big box fan at one end and furnace filters to keep the fumes down. Bought the materials and painted away. I made some mistakes along the way, sanded them out and fixed it.
I did it so I could enjoy my cars and be PROUD of them and not have them look like some piece of shit that that no one cared about.
If you're too lazy to go that route, there are plenty of body shops that will do a really decent driver quality job for very little money. A friend just had an OT 66 Mustang straightened and painted for less than $1500 at one of the chain paint places, and it looks great for a driver! And that was in So Cal where Nothing is particularly cheap!

 

I didn't attack you personally or questioning your authenticity as a gearhead. I also didn't say anything was "stupid" or that anyone "sucks" (to quote you).
I'm defending those of us with a budget and other priorities. Not everyone is cool enough to have enough free time and financial freedom to finish it right now. For the rest of us, we have to keep it looking as decent as financially possible until "someday" comes.
I guess then I can join the elite club of guys with finished rides who can look down at those with lesser means or who haven't owned the vehicle in question for long enough to "finish it".
And this "FNG" is a tech with 20+ ASE certified years under my belt. Yes I do all my own work, from front clipping my Henry J, to dyno-tuning, to upholstering my Polara, to finished paintwork. All I'm new to, is sitting down and typing about it. Guess I hadn't learned that with the anonymity of being on a forum, that I can condemn other peoples way of doing things without the recourse of things turning awkward or feeling the disapproving stares of those thinking I'm being a dick, while observing the interaction. Must be liberating to put anonymity between you and those you're judging.

 

I like peas...


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What a steaming pile of dung. We CAN all learn to paint. If, BIG IF here, we care enough to get off our ass and do it. Or, we can band together and make "patina" cool, so we have a nice excuse. At first, sitting in a pile of bullshit isnt so bad, its warm and soft and kinda squishy. But eventually it cools off, and starts to smell bad...

 

i would have thought it would smell worse hot...but then again...i don't know shit
i think zilla has been misunderstood, he seems to have found a way to enjoy his truck, keep the rust from getting worse and maybe if priorities/money situation was different he would paint it.

 

yea, but your favorite color is rust.!

 

Your wife?

 

I take my wife everywhere, but she always finds her way home!

 

^^^^^^ What he said! Bwahahaha!

 

There is a process called "browning" used in preserving antique firearms which essentially converts rust to a hard protective coating. Whether the process would work on an auto body would be an interesting experiment.

Here's how it's done:

1
Mix nitric acid, sweet spirit of nitre, blue vitriol and tincture of steel with distilled water--do it slowly and carefully to prevent splashing. Stir the mixture vigorously with a glass rod for one minute, then set it aside.

2
Remove all dirt, grease, oil and corrosion from any metal that will be treated by using a dilute detergent solution of three drops of detergent to one quart of water. For heavy corrosion, use steel wool to remove scales and oxide. When you're finished cleaning, dry the metal completely.

3
Apply the browning solution with a sponge to all metal surfaces to be treated. When all metal surfaces have been wiped gently with the browning solution, heat the metal. When the metal is warm to the touch, use a hard bristle brush to move the newly formed brown oxide around the metal. This will help produce a uniform application of the oxide coating.

4
Repeat the wiping, warming and brushing process until the desired patina has developed, then rinse the browning solution from the metal by wiping with a clean sponge and 2 quarts of boiling water in which 10 grams of potash has been added (This measurement does not need to be exact). Wipe the metal parts several times, until the water running off of the metal is clear.

5
Dry the metal that has received the browning treatment immediately and completely, then rub it smooth with a hard wood burnisher. After burnishing, lightly oil the metal with light oil.



Read more: http://www.ehow.com/how_6904788_brown-gun-parts.html#ixzz2ceDtyPg8

 

I also think this is very true. Mr zilla has already been condemned because he hasn't written 1000 comments and he speaks what he believes in.
Maybe that's why I reply to a lot of threads with useless shit. I'm slowly learning shit and building up my seniority so I can be believed by those who know everything.
It has always been traditional to do the mechanical repairs while driving your car. That's all we had to drive in the good ole days. The fancy body work and paint came later-maybe!


By the way Mr A. Williams hasn't been active here since the end of May. It does say he's restoring his old Ford. Paint or rust not mentioned.

 

That looks good^^^
If it has most of its paint on it then preserve it. But if its solid rust then I don't get why keep it.. If it where me I would at least sand it down to bare metal and prime it temporarily.. Or many you would like the bare metal look cleared. Good luck with what ever you do.

 

Well this was an interesting thread. I can understand Andy's question and he was looking for some advice. And like elbows, I believe he got what he was looking for. Andy, if you like the surface rust I like the idea of buffing it down and see how it turns out. It may be just what you are looking for. And it was mentioned here that the metal would outlast you so just leave it if you like it . Now what Brad54 said was funny as hell!

 

That truck looks terrific. I'd keep that as is and I'd be proud to own it.

 

Gibbs is great for just about everything!

 

with everyone's 2 cents tossed in this thread is now worth $2.22 more or less

 

You wanna preserve the rust??? Put it back in the barn and let it sit for another 46 years.

 

I understand this is an OLD thread. I still don't like rust. To me preserving rust is the equivalent of not washing your underwear in order to preserve the skidmarks. My name is Allan and I approve this message.

 

Nope, she thought she knew what was best for me and I put up with it for 20 years, finally got sick of that and the lack of... so I threw her ass out last year and got the paper work done in May, no nagging wife at my house and yes I got the house and the new shop full of the fun stuff that I do the way I want. And have since found me a nice woman that understands exactly what I want and gives it to me where I want it when I want it! Life is grand, just the way "I" want it!

 

Ahhh! haa! haaa! haa! haa! haa! hardy har har! chortel, giggle snicker, ahhhh. Its funny because its true...

 

CLR it and buff the p-aint.... it'll look nice..

 

Thats funny shit LA!....

That should about rap up the fauxtina debate for this week ( until the next FNG pipes up)

 

My dog shit in my yard. I love the dog, but he's old and not long for this world. I'd like to keep the turd to remember him by, how do I preserve it?