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Big block chevy in a 64 ford galaxie!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by old soul, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. old soul
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    old soul
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    Long story short. Im not having much luck with the ford thing. I tried to keep it all ford. My mind is made up. Im putting a chevy in it. I have a fresh rebuilt mild 454 I want to use. I know clearly Its not going to go right in. I know I will have to do some fab work. My question is. Is it possible with out to much hacking and cutting. I mean It looks like the 302 barley fits. Mind you theres a 4 speed Muncie bolted to the big block. Darn!!!!! Has any one done this???? I or seen it done???
     
  2. Any place you can srtuff an FE you can stuff a BBC. Should actually go in pretty easy. I am sure i have seen it done but I am also sure that i cannot tell you who or where.

    its just hot rodding, if it were a model A no one would have a problem with it but the purests are no doubt going to get their ******* in a bunch over it. hell let 'em eat workms if they can't take a joke.

    Now get yourself out in the garage and start fabbing.
     
  3. old soul
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    Thanks and thank you for the info.
     
  4. Drive Em
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    You will need a front sump oil pan. Headers will probably be a pain in the a$$, as well as the clutch linkage. I would seriously reconsider it. What kind of problems are you having with the Ford engines?
     
  5. Your biggest problem is going to be manifolds and clutch linkeage. I would go with the stainless truck manifolds if you don't build headers and maybe look at a cable clutch from a camero. It puts your clutch linkeage on the p*** side and will make it easier to get your exhaust around the rest of the **** on the drivers side.

    I would also use camero style side engine mounts. it will give you the option of keeping a spare cheap small block around incase to lunch the BBc and need to get on the road quick and cheap while you build a new monster for it.

    Now what would be really cool is if you find an old set of 427 valve covers for it. Some that scream 427 at you that way you can tell everyone its a 427. An imposter is always a good thing don't ya think? Or maybe some of the chrome factory 396 rocker covers complete with the stickers. Damn look what you started. :)
     
  6. old soul
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    I think ill leave the motor alittle high and find a way to drop the steering. I plan on running manifolds. There will be no switching of the pan. There will be no putting of the ford motor in.
     
  7. old soul
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    Im thinking a finned set of cal customs for valve covers.
     
  8. old soul
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    Ive also been thinking going with a 5 speed and hydraulic clutch.
     
  9. old soul
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    Oh I forgot to mention its a four door sedan.
     

  10. I would put a flathead in it is it were mine, that would make it traditional. :rolleyes:

    Old soul,
    the chasm between Ford and Chevy guys is a three jumper, no crossing it and if they don't get it there is nothing you can do to make 'em get it. You have opened a discussion that separates the rodders from the restorers I am afraid.

    next someone will bring up the value of it arguement and how the BBC will ruin the value of it. ;)
     
  11. old soul
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    Im building it to be dependable and drive. Its gonna be my single quad 4 speed posi traction 454.
     
  12. I have no answers for exhaust or pan. My question is,,,Is it a stick shift car now? My advice is not to mess with steering. Do some work on the pan if necessary and mount the motor up a bit if necessary. If memory serves me correct early big block Nova had a shallower pan than others.
    The Wizzard
     
  13. old soul
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    No the car is a auto. But I just drug in a parts car with pedals and I seen a sticker that said real hot rods have three pedals. That's what started all this.
     
  14. Quote "You have opened a discussion that separates the rodders from the restorers I am afraid.

    next someone will bring up the value of it arguement and how the BBC will ruin the value of it.
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    Porkn******; Being it's a 64 and on top of that a 4 door I doubt any of those guys will give a S--t.
    The Wizzard
     

  15. real real hot rods have 3 peddles and 4 sticks. Nothing says hot rod more then a lenco. :D
     
  16. old soul
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    I seen another sticker under a hood with flathead in it that said. Real hot rods don't have valve covers. So I want to jam the chevy big block and 4 speed in the ford and have a sticker made that says. Real hot rods can get out of their own way. I mean fair is fair right?
     

  17. Or maybe real hot rods can pull and old sick woman off a bed pan.

    Thinking of odd engine combos and maybe this is a little off base, but there used to be a 3rd gen camero running around here with tunnel rammed 440. In my time I have seen about one of everything. It never bothers me I just look and say well I wouldn't have thought of doing it that way and out it in my collections of problems solved and how they got solved.
     
  18. F.Y.I Way back in 1970 I had a 50 Chevy Sedan Delevery. I did a 67 Chevell clip a Vet rear end and then put a nasty 300ci Ford 6 cyl with a 4 speed in it.
    So if your Fab skills are worth ten cents you can make all the Ford clutch hardware mount to the Chevy motor. Nothing but a mount plate on the block to build.
    The Wizzard
     
  19. old soul
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    I got plans for this old four door. I fell in love with it. what can I say. I love her.
     
  20. old soul
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    Its gonna be cool. Ill have to get some pics.
     
  21. old soul
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    Thanks for the info Broke. That's what I plan on doing. I plan on using the ford pedals. any old bar I got kicking around running the z bar ball etheir off the bell or the block. And then its just a matter of two more rods. One coming off the clutch pedal threw the fire wall to the top of the z bar and then a rod off the bottom of the z bar to the clutch fork that's adjustable.
     
  22. henryj1951
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    the http://www.theisca.com/ used to give extra points for the use of different
    engine....

    can a current isca judge chime in .... :eek::cool:


    :cool:
     
  23. Not to be saying not to do what your thinking of but,,,,, I've been there. I try not to mix and match clutch hardware any more. It ****s things up. Were it me doing this I'd use everything from the Ford and mount it to the Block as needed. You can narrow or widen the Z bar if necessary but I'd work on a center line to keep rotation as stock. It's all about leverage and stuff. You can build yourself a real pile of Dung in a hurry mixing things.
    The Wizzard
     
  24. old soul
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    I do have a little stock 283 with a auto turbo 350. Would it go in easyer then the big block. Do you guys think it would move this barge????
     
  25. Now your talking like a beginner with no confidance. Change is change. It don't matter small or big block, you'll have the same issues. Automatics are for Old Ladies. Just get after it and make it happen.
    The Wizzard
     
  26. old soul
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    Thanks for the push
     
  27. '51 Norm
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    I think that it is interesting how people get all wrought up about putting a Ford in a Chevy and vice versa. I put a Pontiac in a Studebaker and no one cared.

    As far as difficult engine swaps go; I put a '63 Pontiac engine into a '65 Pontiac; an installation that should have been a drop in. Alas, my dreams of easy horsepower were rudely shattered. It did get done and on the road but it was "educational" shall we say?

    Hears hoping that you manage the install with minimal h***le. Have fun and ignore the naysayers.
     
  28. henryj1951
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    Look at what is put into the poor ol Henry J... just about any thing.
    hemi,ford,dodge,olds,chevy, so i'm saying
    there is no CORRECT transplant.
    :cool:

    go for it OP --- BB the ford......:cool:
     
  29. 1971BB427
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    I would guess dropping a BBC in your Galaxy will be much easier than it was to drop the BBC in my '63 Falcon. I also wanted a 4 speed, and surprisingly that wasn't hard to do, even with mechanical linkage. I actually used the stock Falcon Z bar, but had to cut the length nearly in half on the pivot tube, and fab up a new flat bar to the top side to connect to the pedal. I used 3/8" rod and heim ends for my pedal operating rod, and the stock lower rod to attach to the Chevy clutch fork. It's all operating a pretty heavy pressure plate, but is working great. I had to build a new frame mount for the pivot ball, and I turned down Chevy pivot balls to fit the smaller diameter Ford Z bar tube on frame and block. I also the stock frame mounting holes, but made my mount from angle iron, and relocated the pivot ball to match the block point. The stock frame bracket was stamped steel, and didn't look too beefy.
    Headers for a late 60's BBC Impala will probably fit well, if you did go headers, but stock exhaust will fit even better. I used Patriot Tri 5 fenderwell headers, but I have a straight axle and they fit perfectly.
    The BBC in my Falcon required me to set the firewall back about 6", but I'd guess your Galaxy has plenty of room. A BBC really isn't a lot longer than a SBF, especially if you convert the BBC to a short water pump. I did this on mine and gained another inch of length over the long pump.
    While the engine is out, do yourself a favor and replace the stock brake master with a late 60's Mustang dual master! It's a direct bolt in, **** reuse the old operating rod for a perfect fit.
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  30. old soul
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    I want to do that with the new master thanks for the info. Wont I have to switch my perportion block???
     

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