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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hud I, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. Hud I
    Joined: Jul 19, 2008
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    Hud I
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    from Tennessee

    My friend acquired a auto. trans of unknown origin. The bell housing looks to be a BOP, that unbolts from the trans. The front shaft is a very short splined shaft. The feature that has us stumped is that it has 3 shift levers on its side. It appears to be a GM trans. Any help is appreciated. Hud
     
  2. txturbo
    Joined: Oct 23, 2009
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    Pictures appreciated
     
  3. ^^^^More like, pictures required
     
  4. We could guess all day long but a photo and your problem could be solved. HRP
     
  5. Hud I
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    Sorry guys. No pics available at the present. Hud
     
  6. anteek49
    Joined: Aug 7, 2013
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    a good chance it is a Saginaw 4 speed.,need pics or casting number to be sure.
     
  7. It's astonishing how many people will post things similar to this and expect an answer.
    I worked in auto parts, at the dealer level, and ran into this sort of thing daily.
    "Uhhhhh, I don't know what it's called, but I need this thing that goes on my engine, sort of close to the end. I think it's made out of metal. How much is it?"
     
  8. A Saginaw 4 speed automatic??? And why a Sag? All old four speeds had 3 levers.
     
  9. Does it look anything like this? HRP

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  10. Hud I
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    from Tennessee

    It is a AUTOMATIC. It is not a Manual or OD trans. It is a automatic with cooler lines . It has 3 selector levers on it side, not one selector lever. Hud
     
  11. F&J
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    Not that i ever looked at one.... but how about one of those goofy Mopar half breeds? Half A/T but with a Clutch, or was it half standard with a freaking convertor. Clutch flight, gyromatic, or WTH drive?:confused::D
     
  12. ttpete
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    from SE MI

    How many concentric splined shafts in the front? And is the case iron or aluminum? Sheet metal cover on the left side?
     
  13. frankenfords
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    Total stab in the dark here (like every other guess so far)...

    ...hydramatic?
     
  14. Excuse me,no photos and 3 levers sure have a manual ring to it!:rolleyes: HRP
     
  15. thats automatic trans with a clutch

    Ive never seen one up close, but werent the very first fluid drive trans missions still manual based and shifted but no clutch ?
     
  16. They're still out there... AND THEY WALK AMONG US! At our shop this customer is referred to as the "tube-thing guy".

    "Yeah... ummm, I gotta pick-up and I need that tube-thing that's got one end connected to something on the motor and the other end I can't see where it goes." :rolleyes:
     
  17. F&J
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    Hud, you need to answer Pete's questions....he sounds like he knows something;)
     
  18. indyjps
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    Now I'm interested to see what the hell it is, damn thread should have been 2-3 posts max if there were pics. Begrudginly subscribed.
     
  19. Rusty O'Toole
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    Chrysler Fluid Drive has 2 shift levers on the left and 3 electric gizmos on the right. Looks like a cast iron 3 speed out of a dump truck with a humongous bellhousing.
     
  20. Hud I
    Joined: Jul 19, 2008
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    from Tennessee

    One shaft , short. Alum. case and no sheet metal. Does not have a gov. access on the side like most GM trans. Has no vacum modulator. Has one line coming out of the top. Don't know if vent or vacum tube. I have been over on Google but haven't had any luck there. What happened to the good Search feature that this page use to have? Hud
     
  21. squirrel
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    you gonna have to post some pictures....
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2013
  22. No sheet metal as in no sheet metal pan either ?
     
  23. Hud I
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    some one pm me a email. I have a pic coming. I can't post it but I can email it to some one. Hud
     
  24. squirrel
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    will do.

    sent
     
  25. squirrel
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    This is the picture from hud1.

    slim jim, aka roto hydramatic, pontiac, early 60s, right?

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  26. ttpete
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    That's a tough one. I go back to most of the old iron boxes, and the only thing I can think of with one spline shaft is the old Hydra-Matic because it had a fluid coupling and not a torque converter. Those needed 2 spline shafts, one was a mount for the stator. I left the independent shops when the aluminum Powerglide was just coming in and went to work for Ford Engineering.
     
  27. ttpete
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    Yup. I never got into one. The boss always got rebuilds from a local shop. Oldsmobiles, too.
     
  28. Hud I
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    from Tennessee

    Thanks guys. He bought a project car a couple months ago and it was in the trunk. We were not familiar with it. I don't think he will use it. Thanks again. Hud
     
  29. Unless you post a pictures or some casting number your SOL!
     
  30. Hahaha
     

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