Projects The bucket of ugly! A de-uglifying thread...

Scoop
Tooo tall and stubby
Needs to be longer and shorter
http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac277/FuzzyKnight28/3-15-0820003s1_zpsefa37cf3.jpg

 

Amen, both suffer the same, just at different levels.

Don't fight it.................GBP baby!

 

GBP or Surfer Scoop would be perfect. Alan Johnson was selling them a few years ago, I think it would nail the look. The Cal Custom scoop screams Fad T to me.

My '27 T Roadster build: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t= 734383

 

I tend to agree, but I have had a surfer type scoop, and a GBP scoop on here and they are WAY to long to do the deed. They are almost completely out of scale to the engine without a blower beneath them. I do really like the smaller, rounder teardrop shaped scoops that were on some of the dragsters that George posted a page or so ago. I might go that way and shape one out of foam and glass it.

The little scoop I had on it yesterday though isn't Cal Custom that I can find. I'm not entirely sure where or when it came about.

 

Here's what you need....

http://www.obrientruckers.com/ecom/product/239/2687/

 

Just a round, chrome, 12"(ish) deal with a low profile filter. The kind everyone has hanging somewhere in their garage.

 

I bought the issue of R&C that had you car on the cover. Very similar to the Ivo car (bed length, windshield height, stance is a little lower), which, as I said, is the T-bucket template. Nice car. Nice enough to make me buy the mag. Seeing as Chip has set down a time frame ('63/'64) for what he's building, that would be his decision, based on his dream. Not everyone may share that dream, but I respect his vision. "Traditional" doesnt enter into it, and I dont think that word has even been mentioned, has it? I try to go with "period correct" which is what Chip is after, its less ambigious, and not as prone to being pushed around by the vagaries of HAMB fashion.

 

What you need is a 4-71 and another afb. Then it'll all be in proportion...

 

Agreed! Maybe I'll take Jeem's suggestion until that becomes reality. I thought that maybe with the coming of swap season again as of next Sunday maybe I'll find something cool out there on the swap trail... How about a 14" louvered type Cal Custom filter, or maybe a Stellings and Hellings mushroom dome type?

I know George is going to have a minor hemorrhage at the next thing that I think I'll be doing, but I found a closet full of aluminum manifolds at a small private yard one day last week, each that I can get for about 50.00. Two were first Generation Edelbrock Torkers, one in a bit better shape than the other. I know these are much later from the earlier seventies and all, but I am in need of a front fill and breather 'cause whoever put this 327 together didn't know anything a about venting a block and it's misting all over the place. So, to alleviate the problem quickly, I'm thinking of picking up the better of the two Torkers, and grinding the Torker lettering off then sandblasting the remainder. That will get me the ventilation I need for the immediate, a manifold that doesn't look TOO new, until I can get this 4/71 deal done.

 

I admitt I really do like well done home made airclears,but so few look right design wise=it's not EZ..But a good one off is fantastic!!NOT age related ether.
If made from alum they can polish up nice and have the benafit of adjusting the size to match the car need.

 

on a near stock motor like you have and the tall rear-end ratio, I would be pretty surprised if the dual plane you have on there doesn't out-perform the Torker. I started building motors in the day when the torker was the latest thing, I was honestly never a huge fan. For a mild motor with an automatic, I preffered the Z-28 intake, if it was a snarkier piece, I used Tarantulas. When the long runner Holley 300-25 strip dominator came out around '76/'77, that was the piece to use on the hotter motors.

 

Silliness from yesterday's ride with Hot Rod Ron

 

two guys havin' fun...in a woadster .. made me smile !!!!

 

looks like the fun zone at the fair?

I built my t to have a 471, never found the drive parts I could afford or at least part with the money I wanted to spend at the time.
Now I am on to another project and the 471 is the last item on my mind now.
But at your stage do it now because they look gOOOOOOd!

 

Just make your own scoop, Louvers. I was lucky that the OBT scoop was what I had been waiting for, for a LONG time. I love mine. Making your own would be the thing to do, in order to please yourself.

 

Scale this down (yes, it's too big in the pics) about 10%, maybe a touch more, and you'd be right there. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nostalgia-s...929?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c74bd7751 Those too small ones would only look good if you went 2x4 intake.

 

That's another scoop I like. They just make them too damn long for a single 4 BBL.

 

Louver kind of design idea 4 aircleaner,could be any size an any # of louvers or shapes,just for fun.

 

Reminds me of the hood scoop on the Vette in, "Corvette Summer".

 

here ya go !!!!

 

Personally, I think the exposed engine on a "T" screams for something more than a single carb (and not one of them fake 2x2 adapters either.

I wouldn't waste time fooling around with a scoop.

I would make it my goal to eliminate it asap, pony up for a old 2x4 manifold and a couple of used 1406 Edelbrock carbs (they are cheap and easy to fix, usually just dirty inside).

Then, when you get your 4-71 put the 2x4's on top, again a single 4 is kinda lame sitting on top of a blower.

And I'm sure you could re-sell the regular 2x4 intake at that time for at least what you paid for it.

Just my opinion of course.

 

x2 ok

 

Yup, just the thing. I like to think I know you by now, so I'm just gonna assume that you are gonna make the 4-71 happen. One of those 'when you gotta, you gotta" deals. Sorta like how I HAD to have a Desoto.

 

I'm all over the road on this one right now. I do agree that a t-bucket NEEDS more than one carb, but I'm sort of biding my time waiting on this 4/71 deal to work or not. Yet, in the mean time I HAVE to do something to come up with a front fill, vented manifold soon. And yup, a dual quad manifold would fill the bill quite nicely with a pair of Edlebrocks on board. I even had a guy ask me the other week at So-Cal what I thought a dual quad manifold would sell for these days. When I was quick to give an answer as to what I would pay, he backed off pretty quickly. got his number though and it might be worth a bit of calling... Being broke sucks rocks!

 

Oh, found out today that it isn't a 327 I have. I had been taking the previous owner at face value on that one, and hadn't run the numbers yet. I'm pretty confident that knowing where it came from it was misrepresented to him. It's a 283. Still has some sort of cam though, and more than a bit of compression, so I'm not too upset.

 

If you're advertising your business on your car, it becomes a partial tax write off. So talk to your tax man about this idea. Some small letters on the louver scoops with your business name might do the trick.

 

I just picked up a chrome mushroom air cleaner for mine, not a fan of the fiberglass scoops. No doubt you'll end up w/ something perfect for it.

 

Doh! Never even noticed that!

 

Ya, that's the problem. Hot rod Ron and I looked like we were doing an Al Johlson impersonation when we jumped off the freeway Saturday from all the oil spetters coming off the engine. On the plus side, my skin now has a youthful luster and gloss not seen it years!

Sorry I haven't been updating too much on mechanical stuff the last few days. I have been busy trying to quell a bunch of cantankerous Eldelbrock carb issues, and fixing wiring issues as well. Nothing very flashy to add.

If anybody has any ideas, I have a solid drop of fuel randomly dropping from the booster on the driver's side primary. I have dropped the float height, added a fuel pressure regulator set at 4lbs, cleaned, cleaned again, blown out every passage, cleaned again, checked floats for leaks, lowered float height some more... Just seriously considering mixing up a batch of Kool-Aide at this point... on second thought, what it does not know is, I WILL WIN!!!

 

Be sure the bowls have vents open,if float is low enough and PSI is 4lbs or less/no more then 4,I my self use 3lbs.,and float seat is good,it should not drip. I have a Q=is this when your ideling?= if so it can also be the way the motor vibs,can make fuel wave in bowl and drip[things that coz that are too high RPM at idel,or harmonic from a rpm level set at, or sold motor mounts or even rubber donuts mounts that are pulled on too hard. Now here one you'll think is dum,but no carb spacer and only one gasket can add to letting vib get to carb,ya I though that was werid too but saw it happen and stop with adding heat spacer under carb..if there was none