COE COE Picture thread (imported from main board)

The chassis was a breeze to use. The steering worked flawlessly, just had to fab up brackets/mounts to hold everything. The only downside (at least at that time) was not a lot of rim choices.

Bob

 

Can anyone give me an idea about what a stock 48 Chevy COE weighs? I'm going to look at one, and am not sure if I can haul it on my trailer. I know it will fit if I take the rear outer duals off, but not sure about the weight.

 

Is it just cab and chassis?




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I don't have numbers in front of me, but you will be surprised how light they are. Probably less than a modern 1/2 ton pick-up.

 

Grabbed from another HAMB post; I thought it belonged here, too.

 

Pretty much, it has part of a hoist on the back, but no bed or hydraulics, otherwise it's complete. If needed, I could cut the hoist frame off and throw them in the back of the pick-up. They are pretty pough and aren't any good for anything but scrap. Looks like the frame may have been beefed up by adding some doubler plates to the sides.

My trailer has twin 3500 lb axels, but weighs almost 2000 lbs. I figure I can haul 5000- 6000 lbs (depending on how much tounge weight I have).

 

My first experience hauling a full COE was a 48 Ford. When I bought it there was a flatbed on it and the seller took it off as I didn't want that weight on the back end of the trailer. I felt the trailer might be tongue light with it on. I had a 16' trailer that weighed just under 2000# with 3500# axles. I hauled it from near St Louis Mo. to home without a problem, not quite 500 mi. I hauled another with a hoist on it and it was too heavy in the rear and made for a light tongue. Luckily I was only hauling it about 15 mi, as the trailer would sway above 45 because of the light tongue weight

 

hauling in style
taken from coe truck farcebook

 

Couple of nice rides..




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Looks like a Factory original 1 1/2 ton pickup on the back.

 

I suspect this one of these.

<TABLE width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD> <CENTER>[SIZE=+2]Trucks converted with [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]Marmon-Herrington All-Wheel Drive Conversion Kits[/SIZE]</CENTER></TD></TR> <TR> <TD> <HR SIZE=1 width="100%"> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD> In the 1930s, when Marmon-Herrington had found that in addition to specialty vehicles there was a growing market for moderately priced all-wheel drive vehicles, they started to co-operate with Ford Motor Co. Large numbers of commercial Ford truck chassis were converted with Marmon-Herrington's All-Wheel Drive Conversion kits. These Ford/Marmon-Herrington trucks were bought in massive numbers by the military around the world. Below follows a list of countries that bought all-wheel drive chassis or chassis/cabs at Marmon-Herrington, and suited them for their own needs.
Marmon-Herrington's expertise on all-wheel drive vehicles was also called upon when the Canadian automotive industry geared up for war production: "Immediately after the war was declared, the Ford Motor Company of Canada were charged with the responsibility of developing a 4x4 truck for army use. Obviously, they had very little experience in this field [...] Consequently they went to the Marmon-Herrington Company, Indianapolis, who in peace time supplied conversion material to convert Standard Ford 4x2 trucks into 4x4 models for various commercial peace time usage. [...] these joints were unsuitable [...] [the weight of the more or less cab over engine design and heavy army wheels/tires put too much load on the front axle joints.] To solve this problem, "Bendix-Weiss and Rzeppa joints were chosen by General Motors and Ford respectively [...] [They later realized that the "Tracta" type was better but they were already tooled up with the above types, so left it as it was.] (The Design Record, Vol. 4, p. 27).

</TD></TR> <TR> <TD> <TABLE width="100%" border=1> <TBODY> <TR vAlign=top> <TD>Australia</TD> <TD>

• Tractor, Artillery (Aust) No.3 (LP3) Ford/Marmon-Herrington

</TD></TR> <TR vAlign=top> <TD>Belgium</TD> <TD>

• Tracteur Ford/Marmon-Herrington

</TD></TR> <TR> <TD vAlign=top>Canada</TD> <TD>

• Truck, 3-ton, 6x6, Crash Tender (Ford/Marmon-Herrington MM5-6)

</TD></TR> <TR> <TD vAlign=top>Netherlands East Indies</TD> <TD>

• Truck, ½-ton, 4x2, Machine Gun (Ford 19C, modified)
• Ford/Marmon-Herrington LLDMG5-4
• Ford/Marmon-Herrington LD6-4 ½-ton 4x4 truck
• Truck, 2½-ton, 6x6, Searchlight and Sound Ranging (Ford 198T/Marmon-Herrington)
• Truck, 3-ton, 6x6, Crash Tender (Ford/Marmon-Herrington MM5-6)

</TD></TR> <TR vAlign=top> <TD>USA</TD> <TD>

• Truck, 1½-ton 4x4, Dump (Ford/Marmon-Herrington)
• SnoGo (Ford/Marmon-Herrington (K)MM5-4)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> After conversion, data plates were fitted to the cab interior to show the truck was converted to all-wheel drive by the Marmon-Herrington Company and to instruct drivers about the shift patterns. Shown below, courtesy of Mike, is a typical set of these plates.
<TABLE width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD> <CENTER>
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</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
</TD></TR> <TR> <TD> <HR SIZE=1 width="100%"> Sources:

• Col. Herrington, abstracts from personal notes by Don Chew.
• Report of U.S. Army Mission to Netherlands East Indies August 8-20, 1941.
• Vanderveen, Bart H., The Observer's Fighting Vehicles Directory World War II. London: Frederick Warne & Co Ltd, 1969.
  Wheels & Tracks magazine issue No. 40

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

This truck can't really be for sale for $12,500, can it?



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Just saw that the Futureliner car hauler is for sale. There is a thread somewhere on here about the build. Need deep pockets at $1.25 million.

 

Hemmings also has an article on it. Converted to a tilt cab for access to the motor. Pretty cool stuff but 1.25 mil seems a bit steep.

 

At that price it's probably a fairly old picture

 

You'd think, huh? There's not much in the photo to help date it except the area code. The 931 area code came about in 1997, and even in 1997 money that's insanely cheap! The '34 on the bed wouldn't be that cheap either. I'm confused!


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The Marmon Harrington price looks like 21,500 to me, I don't have an opinion as to where that price is. 12,500 does seem cheap on the COE. We've been through some hard times over the past few years, maybe the owner was desperate to make a house payment. Sadly that can happen!

 

I ask for more info on the site where i took the pic from no return yet

 

I think you're right. I said the truck was a '34 but the grill and hood (and writing on the window) show it's a '35.

Maybe they look better in pics than they are in person (not likely). I'm with ya, the guy probably needed cash or was getting rid of them so the soon to be ex didn't get them.

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Found this on St Louis CL

 

Why do I like that?

 

I like my COE's like I like my wimmenz... short wheelbase, wide in the fenders & stacked up in the front.

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I look at it wondering if there is anything salvageable, certainly doesn't remind me of any woman I would want to know! LOL

 

Some of the toy's I've had,

 

I like it, kind of reminds me of my old Unimog!

 

I was wrong, it was on the St Louis CL and only $600...tires not included.


http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4180557243.html

 

I finally took some pics with the wheels centered in the fenders and similar wheels...
No more Photoshop for me, this are more realistic pics of the end result.

 

Needs a big TONKA logo on the side

and Iwanaflattie...your truck is looking great!! Sits perfectly!!

 

Seth , looks really good . Now put down the JACK and get to work .lol Blue

 

Nice pair of fords




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